Bilingualism losing some ground among young anglophones outside Quebec Most anglophones outside Quebec learn French at school. As a result, the bilingualism rate peaks in the age group 15 to 19, when young people complete their high school education. Many teenagers in that age group had been enrolled in French as a second language or immersion programs.
However, from 1996 to 2001, bilingualism lost some ground among anglophones aged 15 to 19 outside Quebec. In 2001, 14.7% of anglophones in this age group outside Quebec were bilingual. While this was twice the proportion for the anglophone population as a whole (7.1%), it was lower than the proportion of 16.3% among anglophones aged 15 to 19 in 1996.
Even in the age group 10 to 14, the bilingualism rate fell from 12.9% in 1996 to 11.5% in 2001. The pattern was the same in every province west of Quebec.
In the Atlantic provinces, only Newfoundland and Labrador and Nova Scotia recorded an increase in the bilingualism rate among anglophones in these two age groups. In Prince Edward Island and New Brunswick, the proportion rose among youngsters aged 10 to 14, but declined in the age group 15 to 19.
Furthermore, the ability of young anglophones to maintain their knowledge of French as a second language appears to fade over time. In 1996, the bilingualism rate among young people aged 15 to 19 was 16.3%. By 2001, when this group was five years older, or aged between 20 and 24, the rate had dropped to 13.5%. This followed a similar pattern from 1991 to 1996.
A waste of time,money,and real education for our kids. No country in the world can show success,by attempting to force bilingualism. And any country that trys it destructs. Check out canada's corruption index. Check how many people think our past 3 leaders should be investigated by an outside police force (OUTSIDE CANADA). And check out how many of the best,have left this country,a country now controlled by shady special interest groups.
I fully support FSL at the early immersion level. I have 2 children in the program and it amases me that they can hold a conversation with their peers, teachers and Francophones in a second language they have only learned in a very short period of time.
I agree we do need to have MORE support from the Eduaction Dept. IE. There is a need to hire more FSL experts at the Department and school district level.
Policy 309 must be followed. Schools and school districts should be made accountable to follow Policy 309 if students are made accountable to reach the goals of the programs.
We must take the Community schools approach to FSL and bilingualism. Schools must become a bilingual education centre for the students and the community.
NAME /Nom: Name Withheld Upon Request
hahaha,It also amases me!!!!!!!!!!! haha thanks friends of french!
As a graduate of a late-immersion program here in New Brunswick (10 years ago) I found that my French Immersion experience did not help my job prospects or my ability to communicate with French New Brunswickers. The French language NB students are taught in school is almost unrecognizable from the French language being spoken in New Brunswick and Quebec. It was only after travelling in France that I realized that the curriculum and learning materials we used provided us a fabulous basis for communicating in Paris, but were very little help when trying to communicate in New Brunswick. This is great for travelling, but puts students at a severe disadvantage in a job-market that requires skills in Acadian/Quebecois French. Unless students are planning on emigrating to France, or there is a significant change in curriculum and materials to reflect the part of the world in which we live, I don't believe that participation in a French immersion program is worth the significant pressure and stress it inflicts upon young students.
NAME /Nom: Name Withheld Upon Request
pressure and stress it inflicts upon young students.(you right there)
I believe learning a second language is a wonderful thing and a great opportunity in New Brunswick for those who CHOOSE to do so. I have a HUGE problem with it being forced upon our children as it affects our whole family. Not everyone has an aptitude to learn a second language, just as not everyone has an aptitude to learn music. You can be forced to try to learn but it does not mean you will be able to. My older son was in the early immersion program. He was so frustrated as the work became more difficult that we decided to return to the English program when he entered Middle School. (I could not afford to keep sending him to tutors.) His marks improved immensely and he is much happier. My younger son is now in grade 5 and is being forced to take the French program. He comes home every day saying he "HATES" school, he does not want to take French, does not understand what the teacher is saying to him. That leads to a lot of frustration at home and he has been acting out at school. He is a smart boy but he is not enjoying school at all. I encourage a positive attitude and to try his best but he is a very unhappy little boy. As a parent I strongly disagree with the program. What about the kids who have learning disabilities? What are they getting out of this when they struggle to learn in their own language! What about the reading, writing, social studies, math they are NOT getting. My son cannot spell well and cannot cursive write. I have recently purchased books to teach him myself as the education system appears too concerned with French than teaching my child the basics that he NEEDS to know. French (OR ENGLISH) as a second language should be a CHOICE. FREEDOM OF CHOICE should work both ways but it appears to have been taken away from Anglophone families!!
NAME /Nom: Lori Sipprell
This person is a very lovely and intelligent caring parent, She is also correct
"A waste of time,money,and real education for our kids."
Have to disagree with the waste of time comment.
Also with the "real education" - many European countries are able to teach their children three different languages in school without any trouble.
In my opinion, learning a second language provided a number of tangible benefits and gives you a step up when you try to learn other languages later in life.
The bilingualism is one of the few remaining examples of why Canadians aren't lumped in with our illiterate brothers to the south (at least that seems to be the perception).
Anecdotally, being able to speak French immediately puts you on a higher level in the eyes of Europeans. Tourists over there who can only speak English are seen as uncultured ignoramuses.
However, the French classes given to kids in English (not immersion) were always seen as a joke back when I went to school. I'm not sure if the classes were just badly taught, or whether it was a result of the aptitudes of those who were relegated to English-only classes.
oh my.which european country,you prefer to live in? where are your stats?
Are your teeth and tonque sore from hanging on? I'v travelled canada clear cross many times and met many well off smart people,none who spoke french. A son who travelled europe for 6 years as european analyst for huge companie,english only.Is it too tough for you arty types to accept reality. arty boys never have facts to back up things do they? Ever hear the BIG boys speaking french.or defending it?
Here is the whole of lobby bunch that should be sued for the damage to the lack of our childrens education!
We are writing to express our concern about comments you made in the Nov. 17 issue of the Telegraph-Journal, where you stated, "But the folks at (Canadian Parents for French) can't go to the tree house, pull the ladder up behind them and say, the 20 or 30 per cent of kids here are fine and I don't want to worry about the other 70 per cent".
This statement does not reflect our current or past position on making improvements on French second language learning in New Brunswick. CPF New Brunswick has always supported and encouraged the government to improve the non-immersion and immersion second language programs in the province, including Core French, Intensive Core French, Late French Immersion, and Early French Immersion.
In fact, in our submission to the FSL Review Commissioners, we made several suggestions how the government can improve the Core French program. We have always been leaders in supporting improvements to the Core French program.
Our CPF NB membership includes parents of children in non-immersion programs.
We ask that you publicly retract your comments about CPF's beliefs.
We also ask that you consider changing your tone and attitude toward parents in this province who support and promote French second language education programs.
In a democracy, it is a minister's responsibility to listen to input from the public, including parent groups and individual parents, even those whose ideas differ from their own.
WALTER LEE
President, Canadian Parents for French, New Brunswick Branch
Kelly is getting wise to the parents for the kids already in line for the french designated big paying goverment jobs,which is inbred in N.B. Mr Lamrock is for all our kids.
WOW thanks to Charles Leblanc for letting get this hidden agenda information out. So guess who involved in money for "canadian parents for french" Legally known as "Circle Square Ranch" http://www.csranch.ca/main.htm
LOBBYING AND USING OUR KIDS FOR PROFIT AND THEIR RELIGIOUS INFUSION.
KELLY LAMROCK has caught on to these shysters. Thanks again Mr. Leblanc.
Campus News & Events Yorkville University Student Awarded Presidential Citation - November 03, 2006 (Fredericton, NB) - Every year Yorkville University honors the student with the highest academic standards in the graduating class with the Presidential Citation Award. This year’s recipient is Toronto, Ontario native Tricia da Silva.
“It is a tremendous honor to receive this award among so many talented individuals.” da Silva says in respect to her classmates. “My cohort was filled with very intelligent and knowledgeable students who brought a wealth of life and experience to the class discussion.”
da Silva began taking courses with Yorkville University in September 2004, completing the program in October 2006. Yorkville’s unique ability to allow students to study without having to give up their full-time jobs is what initially attracted her to the university. “Yorkville University offers the best combination of flexibility to shape my study schedule around my other life demands.” da Silva says. “It has let me accomplish something I have wanted to for a long time.”
Like many others, da Silva had never done online courses before but Yorkville University’s user-friendly system and helpful staff made it a quick and memorable learning experience. “This kind of learning involves a lot of discipline and time commitment from the student,” da Silva recalls. “If you are able to accommodate that, the advantages of being able to study at your own schedule, anytime and anywhere, can be invaluable.”
Since her completion of the Master of Arts in Counselling Psychology program, da Silva is now able to go forward with her goal of moving into a clinical career. She is exploring opportunities for clinical work and for collaborating on psychology articles with others.
For further information contact: Walter Lee Director of Admissions Yorkville University
THE MAN WITH THE MISSION. YOU BET. French puts money in the pocket si.Just not in the pocket of the NB french where it should go. End of research.
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There is zero truth to that. As you know.
Statistics Canada census.
Bilingualism losing some ground among young anglophones outside Quebec
Most anglophones outside Quebec learn French at school. As a result, the bilingualism rate peaks in the age group 15 to 19, when young people complete their high school education. Many teenagers in that age group had been enrolled in French as a second language or immersion programs.
However, from 1996 to 2001, bilingualism lost some ground among anglophones aged 15 to 19 outside Quebec. In 2001, 14.7% of anglophones in this age group outside Quebec were bilingual. While this was twice the proportion for the anglophone population as a whole (7.1%), it was lower than the proportion of 16.3% among anglophones aged 15 to 19 in 1996.
Even in the age group 10 to 14, the bilingualism rate fell from 12.9% in 1996 to 11.5% in 2001. The pattern was the same in every province west of Quebec.
In the Atlantic provinces, only Newfoundland and Labrador and Nova Scotia recorded an increase in the bilingualism rate among anglophones in these two age groups. In Prince Edward Island and New Brunswick, the proportion rose among youngsters aged 10 to 14, but declined in the age group 15 to 19.
Furthermore, the ability of young anglophones to maintain their knowledge of French as a second language appears to fade over time. In 1996, the bilingualism rate among young people aged 15 to 19 was 16.3%. By 2001, when this group was five years older, or aged between 20 and 24, the rate had dropped to 13.5%. This followed a similar pattern from 1991 to 1996.
A waste of time,money,and real education for our kids.
No country in the world can show success,by attempting to force bilingualism.
And any country that trys it destructs.
Check out canada's corruption index.
Check how many people think our past 3 leaders should be investigated by an outside police force (OUTSIDE CANADA).
And check out how many of the best,have left this country,a country now controlled by shady special interest groups.
http://www.gnb.ca/0000/eng-comm-e.asp
01/11/07
COMMENTS / COMMENTAIRE :
I fully support FSL at the early immersion level. I have 2 children in the program and it amases
me that they can hold a conversation with their peers, teachers and Francophones in a second
language they have only learned in a very short period of time.
I agree we do need to have MORE support from the Eduaction Dept. IE.
There is a need to hire more FSL experts at the Department and school district level.
Policy 309 must be followed. Schools and school districts should be made accountable to follow
Policy 309 if students are made accountable to reach the goals of the programs.
We must take the Community schools approach to FSL and bilingualism. Schools must become
a bilingual education centre for the students and the community.
NAME /Nom: Name Withheld Upon Request
hahaha,It also amases me!!!!!!!!!!!
haha thanks friends of french!
30/10/07
COMMENTS / COMMENTAIRE :
As a graduate of a late-immersion program here in New Brunswick (10 years ago) I found that my
French Immersion experience did not help my job prospects or my ability to communicate with
French New Brunswickers. The French language NB students are taught in school is almost
unrecognizable from the French language being spoken in New Brunswick and Quebec. It was
only after travelling in France that I realized that the curriculum and learning materials we used
provided us a fabulous basis for communicating in Paris, but were very little help when trying to
communicate in New Brunswick. This is great for travelling, but puts students at a severe
disadvantage in a job-market that requires skills in Acadian/Quebecois French. Unless students
are planning on emigrating to France, or there is a significant change in curriculum and materials
to reflect the part of the world in which we live, I don't believe that participation in a French
immersion program is worth the significant pressure and stress it inflicts upon young students.
NAME /Nom: Name Withheld Upon Request
pressure and stress it inflicts upon young students.(you right there)
25/10/07
COMMENTS / COMMENTAIRE :
I believe learning a second language is a wonderful thing and a great opportunity in New
Brunswick for those who CHOOSE to do so. I have a HUGE problem with it being forced upon
our children as it affects our whole family. Not everyone has an aptitude to learn a second
language, just as not everyone has an aptitude to learn music. You can be forced to try to learn
but it does not mean you will be able to. My older son was in the early immersion program. He
was so frustrated as the work became more difficult that we decided to return to the English
program when he entered Middle School. (I could not afford to keep sending him to tutors.) His
marks improved immensely and he is much happier. My younger son is now in grade 5 and is
being forced to take the French program. He comes home every day saying he "HATES" school,
he does not want to take French, does not understand what the teacher is saying to him. That
leads to a lot of frustration at home and he has been acting out at school. He is a smart boy but
he is not enjoying school at all. I encourage a positive attitude and to try his best but he is a very
unhappy little boy. As a parent I strongly disagree with the program. What about the kids who
have learning disabilities? What are they getting out of this when they struggle to learn in their
own language! What about the reading, writing, social studies, math they are NOT getting. My
son cannot spell well and cannot cursive write. I have recently purchased books to teach him
myself as the education system appears too concerned with French than teaching my child the
basics that he NEEDS to know. French (OR ENGLISH) as a second language should be a
CHOICE. FREEDOM OF CHOICE should work both ways but it appears to have been taken
away from Anglophone families!!
NAME /Nom: Lori Sipprell
This person is a very lovely and intelligent caring parent,
She is also correct
"A waste of time,money,and real education for our kids."
Have to disagree with the waste of time comment.
Also with the "real education" - many European countries are able to teach their children three different languages in school without any trouble.
In my opinion, learning a second language provided a number of tangible benefits and gives you a step up when you try to learn other languages later in life.
The bilingualism is one of the few remaining examples of why Canadians aren't lumped in with our illiterate brothers to the south (at least that seems to be the perception).
Anecdotally, being able to speak French immediately puts you on a higher level in the eyes of Europeans. Tourists over there who can only speak English are seen as uncultured ignoramuses.
However, the French classes given to kids in English (not immersion) were always seen as a joke back when I went to school. I'm not sure if the classes were just badly taught, or whether it was a result of the aptitudes of those who were relegated to English-only classes.
oh my.which european country,you prefer to live in?
where are your stats?
Are your teeth and tonque sore from hanging on?
I'v travelled canada clear cross many times and met many well off smart people,none who spoke french.
A son who travelled europe for 6 years as european analyst for huge companie,english only.Is it too tough for you arty types to accept reality.
arty boys never have facts to back up things do they?
Ever hear the BIG boys speaking french.or defending it?
Here is the whole of lobby bunch that should be sued for the damage to the lack of our childrens education!
We are writing to express our concern about comments you made in the Nov. 17 issue of the Telegraph-Journal, where you stated, "But the folks at (Canadian Parents for French) can't go to the tree house, pull the ladder up behind them and say, the 20 or 30 per cent of kids here are fine and I don't want to worry about the other 70 per cent".
This statement does not reflect our current or past position on making improvements on French second language learning in New Brunswick. CPF New Brunswick has always supported and encouraged the government to improve the non-immersion and immersion second language programs in the province, including Core French, Intensive Core French, Late French Immersion, and Early French Immersion.
In fact, in our submission to the FSL Review Commissioners, we made several suggestions how the government can improve the Core French program. We have always been leaders in supporting improvements to the Core French program.
Our CPF NB membership includes parents of children in non-immersion programs.
We ask that you publicly retract your comments about CPF's beliefs.
We also ask that you consider changing your tone and attitude toward parents in this province who support and promote French second language education programs.
In a democracy, it is a minister's responsibility to listen to input from the public, including parent groups and individual parents, even those whose ideas differ from their own.
WALTER LEE
President, Canadian Parents for French, New Brunswick Branch
Kelly is getting wise to the parents for the kids already in line for the french designated big paying goverment jobs,which is inbred in N.B.
Mr Lamrock is for all our kids.
WOW thanks to Charles Leblanc for letting get this hidden agenda information out.
So guess who involved in money for "canadian parents for french"
Legally known as
"Circle Square Ranch"
http://www.csranch.ca/main.htm
LOBBYING AND USING OUR KIDS FOR PROFIT AND THEIR RELIGIOUS INFUSION.
KELLY LAMROCK has caught on to these shysters.
Thanks again Mr. Leblanc.
Campus News & Events
Yorkville University Student Awarded Presidential Citation - November 03, 2006
(Fredericton, NB) - Every year Yorkville University honors the student with the highest academic standards in the graduating class with the Presidential Citation Award. This year’s recipient is Toronto, Ontario native Tricia da Silva.
“It is a tremendous honor to receive this award among so many talented individuals.” da Silva says in respect to her classmates. “My cohort was filled with very intelligent and knowledgeable students who brought a wealth of life and experience to the class discussion.”
da Silva began taking courses with Yorkville University in September 2004, completing the program in October 2006. Yorkville’s unique ability to allow students to study without having to give up their full-time jobs is what initially attracted her to the university. “Yorkville University offers the best combination of flexibility to shape my study schedule around my other life demands.” da Silva says. “It has let me accomplish something I have wanted to for a long time.”
Like many others, da Silva had never done online courses before but Yorkville University’s user-friendly system and helpful staff made it a quick and memorable learning experience. “This kind of learning involves a lot of discipline and time commitment from the student,” da Silva recalls. “If you are able to accommodate that, the advantages of being able to study at your own schedule, anytime and anywhere, can be invaluable.”
Since her completion of the Master of Arts in Counselling Psychology program, da Silva is now able to go forward with her goal of moving into a clinical career. She is exploring opportunities for clinical work and for collaborating on psychology articles with others.
For further information contact:
Walter Lee
Director of Admissions
Yorkville University
THE MAN WITH THE MISSION.
YOU BET.
French puts money in the pocket si.Just not in the pocket of the NB french where it should go.
End of research.
Sorry,this is a BIG story,requires a lot of cross searching.
http://puntedposters.forumsvibe.com/viewtopic.php?p=11719&highlight=&sid=02ace009772bc55d23f8fe05c6da94b7&mforum=puntedposters
Has to do with liberals trying to end the universities and bring in private taxpayer funded shysters.
Check the names here going clear to BC.Of course mckenna and past lib friends are tangled.
This above website is a must read.
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