Since there are a few NDP supporters who visit this site and many other NBers have to be asking themselves the same thing, I have to ask how relevant is this party in NB? 70 people turned up from all over NB to pick the leader? When COR was virtually non-existent they were getting those type of numbers out. That is a poor showing for a party leadership race (?) and is just going to prove that Elizabeth Weir was the NDP Party in NB. It's a good thing Weir has said she'll probably run for her seat in the next election. At least they'll still have one seat. I cannot think of a seat anywhere in NB that Brewer could win. She has supporters but it's sporadic and not concentrated anywhere where she could turn it into a seat win.
Sorry, check that. 70 were out for the annual meeting yesterday. Less than 400 to choose the leader today. That's better than COR. Still not great for a provincial party leadership.
I wish we had a bloggler at the NDP meeting...lol...this is what I found...
N.B. New Democracts elect Allison Brewer as leader
Canadian Press
FREDERICTON -- New Democrats in New Brunswick have a new leader.
Allison Brewer was elected leader of the provincial party at a leadership review in Fredericton on the weekend.
Brewer, who doesn't hold a seat in the legislature, won on the first ballot with 248 votes out of a possible 397.
She replaces outgoing leader Elizabeth Weir, who announced last fall she was stepping down after 17 years as leader and 14 years as the lone New Democrat in the legislature.
Brewer says her first priority is building the party up.
She says Weir can handle the legislature while she travels the province shoring up support.
"Our values are the values of New Brunswickers, and that's the message I want to get across loud and clear," Brewer said.
"We are concerned about the environment and the economy and health care and education."
Brewer is a social activist and former director of the Morgentaler abortion clinic in Fredericton.
You think NDP are the same as the Liberals?? That's just bizarre. Go to 'howdtheyvote.ca' and just take a look at how the parties vote. For better EI packages, only the NDP and Bloc voted for helping the unemployed (that's working people between jobs). On every issue that affects work or work legislation the NDP and Bloc voted together to support working people while the liberals and conservatives both voted together. THAT's your 'similarity'.
I'm not going to get into another abortion/same sex marriage argument, I don't try to change peoples minds, the next generation is already far more liberal and geezers are pretty set in their ways (today a geezer is anyone over 30). I'd just like to mention how odd it is that nobody knows anything about ANY of the other bills but characterizes parties based only on same sex marriage. Something that, quite honestly, doesn't affect you if you aren't gay. That's ONE issue. Financially speaking the conservatives and liberals are the same party, and their votes reflect that. Not supporting NDP is one thing, but to say they are like liberals is just crazy talk.
Good point Mike about the 10% and that alone is probably a good case for proportional representation but I've often wondered did those 10% vote for the NDP or were they just so fed up with the PC's and Libs, that they didn't know what else to do. I don't know. probably a good case for P.R. though. At least in that scenario you woudl have to want to vote for the party because they would win some seats.
Still Brewer seems a strange choice but admittedley the field was pretty weak. I can't see a militant pro-gay, pro-abortion leader who has come out publicly as anti-church winning over the votes of NBers. Maybe she'll soften her stance and maybe she's more moderate these days. Does anyone know? I'm just wondering if those who voted for her actually get out and talk to average NBers or simply hang out with each other. They seem to have lost touch. As always IMHO.
I have said this in passing before that you cannot play favourites when it comes to electing a Political Candidate. There are too many liberals out there, and it dosen't matter what the nameof their prospective party is we as voters must vote for the Candidate who will uphold the traditional Moral and Wholsome Family Values that our Great Nation was founded upon. There are three great sins that be-fall a nation or a country before it becomes totally corrupt from within. they are as follows; Pedofelia, Homosexuality, and of course Murder. Abortion is Wholesale Murder on a unbeleivable scale.
I think that we need to be very careful when we vote in any election. and Keep these individuals who are promoting their own private agenda from getting into power.
There was a government that had only those social 'values', it was called the Taliban. Personally, I wouldn't exactly think of it as a form of government to copy.
I immediately distrust people who make comments like the above, I think they are actually very ANTI family because they want us to focus with a very narrow view of social problems. The only way the above is true is if you think that in most families dad is a child molester, mom is having abortions and son Tommy is a queer. If that's what you think most families are then you are quite mistaken.
Family values are the things that hold a family together. Like mom and dad having decent jobs, having a decent house, being able to afford to have kids, being able to afford to give them post secondary education, being able to put a healthy meal on the table, being able to provide them with a decent environment. Pedophilia, homosexuality, and abortion have nothing to do with any of those. Again, I'm not going to get into another conservative debate, keep those as your only political issues if you want to.
As for the country being 'built' it certainly wasn't by family values. Brothels were all over the place in the 18th and 19th century and people were getting married when they were 13 and 14 (which today would be pedophilia). Of course the line has no real meaning, the country was built by WORKERS, not by 'family values', although child labour was quite common-perhaps that's the type of thing being looked fondly upon?
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Brewer from Fredericton.
More info, anyone, please? How many were there? How many voted?
Since there are a few NDP supporters who visit this site and many other NBers have to be asking themselves the same thing, I have to ask how relevant is this party in NB? 70 people turned up from all over NB to pick the leader? When COR was virtually non-existent they were getting those type of numbers out. That is a poor showing for a party leadership race (?) and is just going to prove that Elizabeth Weir was the NDP Party in NB. It's a good thing Weir has said she'll probably run for her seat in the next election. At least they'll still have one seat. I cannot think of a seat anywhere in NB that Brewer could win. She has supporters but it's sporadic and not concentrated anywhere where she could turn it into a seat win.
Sorry, check that. 70 were out for the annual meeting yesterday. Less than 400 to choose the leader today. That's better than COR. Still not great for a provincial party leadership.
I wish we had a bloggler at the NDP meeting...lol...this is what I found...
N.B. New Democracts elect Allison Brewer as leader
Canadian Press
FREDERICTON -- New Democrats in New Brunswick have a new leader.
Allison Brewer was elected leader of the provincial party at a leadership review in Fredericton on the weekend.
Brewer, who doesn't hold a seat in the legislature, won on the first ballot with 248 votes out of a possible 397.
She replaces outgoing leader Elizabeth Weir, who announced last fall she was stepping down after 17 years as leader and 14 years as the lone New Democrat in the legislature.
Brewer says her first priority is building the party up.
She says Weir can handle the legislature while she travels the province shoring up support.
"Our values are the values of New Brunswickers, and that's the message I want to get across loud and clear," Brewer said.
"We are concerned about the environment and the economy and health care and education."
Brewer is a social activist and former director of the Morgentaler abortion clinic in Fredericton.
A former director of an abortion clinic, nice choice, that lowers the number of possible votes by half right there.
lol...that's a very good point!!!!!...lol..
Brewer is also gay and she is very public about it. Would that hurt her?
You think NDP are the same as the Liberals?? That's just bizarre. Go to 'howdtheyvote.ca' and just take a look at how the parties vote. For better EI packages, only the NDP and Bloc voted for helping the unemployed (that's working people between jobs). On every issue that affects work or work legislation the NDP and Bloc voted together to support working people while the liberals and conservatives both voted together. THAT's your 'similarity'.
I'm not going to get into another abortion/same sex marriage argument, I don't try to change peoples minds, the next generation is already far more liberal and geezers are pretty set in their ways (today a geezer is anyone over 30). I'd just like to mention how odd it is that nobody knows anything about ANY of the other bills but characterizes parties based only on same sex marriage. Something that, quite honestly, doesn't affect you if you aren't gay. That's ONE issue. Financially speaking the conservatives and liberals are the same party, and their votes reflect that. Not supporting NDP is one thing, but to say they are like liberals is just crazy talk.
Good point Mike about the 10% and that alone is probably a good case for proportional representation but I've often wondered did those 10% vote for the NDP or were they just so fed up with the PC's and Libs, that they didn't know what else to do. I don't know. probably a good case for P.R. though. At least in that scenario you woudl have to want to vote for the party because they would win some seats.
Still Brewer seems a strange choice but admittedley the field was pretty weak. I can't see a militant pro-gay, pro-abortion leader who has come out publicly as anti-church winning over the votes of NBers. Maybe she'll soften her stance and maybe she's more moderate these days. Does anyone know? I'm just wondering if those who voted for her actually get out and talk to average NBers or simply hang out with each other. They seem to have lost touch. As always IMHO.
I have said this in passing before that you cannot play favourites when it comes to electing a Political Candidate. There are too many liberals out there, and it dosen't matter what the nameof their prospective party is we as voters must vote for the Candidate who will uphold the traditional Moral and Wholsome Family Values that our Great Nation was founded upon. There are three great sins that be-fall a nation or a country before it becomes totally corrupt from within. they are as follows; Pedofelia, Homosexuality, and of course Murder. Abortion is Wholesale Murder on a unbeleivable scale.
I think that we need to be very careful when we vote in any election. and Keep these individuals who are promoting their own private agenda from getting into power.
There was a government that had only those social 'values', it was called the Taliban. Personally, I wouldn't exactly think of it as a form of government to copy.
I immediately distrust people who make comments like the above, I think they are actually very ANTI family because they want us to focus with a very narrow view of social problems. The only way the above is true is if you think that in most families dad is a child molester, mom is having abortions and son Tommy is a queer. If that's what you think most families are then you are quite mistaken.
Family values are the things that hold a family together. Like mom and dad having decent jobs, having a decent house, being able to afford to have kids, being able to afford to give them post secondary education, being able to put a healthy meal on the table, being able to provide them with a decent environment. Pedophilia, homosexuality, and abortion have nothing to do with any of those. Again, I'm not going to get into another conservative debate, keep those as your only political issues if you want to.
As for the country being 'built' it certainly wasn't by family values. Brothels were all over the place in the 18th and 19th century and people were getting married when they were 13 and 14 (which today would be pedophilia). Of course the line has no real meaning, the country was built by WORKERS, not by 'family values', although child labour was quite common-perhaps that's the type of thing being looked fondly upon?
5:39 right on.
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