Sunday, January 07, 2007

ALBERT STREET MIDDLE SCHOOL - IS KELLY LAMROCK RIGHT OR WRONG ON THIS ISSUE???


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Charles,

As you often state you blog 'for the people', I am surprised at your silence on the Albert Street School issue that has many parents up in arms about relocating the school to the suburbs.

Is it because liberals are in power that you are going soft on them?

Kelly Lamrock is acting like a petty dictator in telling parents, you know, the ones who pay the taxes to build or renovate the school-as well as Kelly's handsome salary, why their concerns aren't important. He claims that the building itself isn't important, but the children who school there.

If its up to the kids then, why not hold a 'kids referendum' and ask them?

Since taxpayers are paying for it, why not let them decide? If there are such strong reasons, then obviously people would support it.

Most provinces don't even deal with local issues such as these, since they are clearly municipal, even local in effect. You can just post this message if you don't want to blog it yourself, here's the CBC story and Lamrocks "Press Release":

Parents fuming over Liberal plan to move school
Last Updated: Friday, December 22, 2006 | 11:44 PM AT
CBC News

Some Fredericton parents are furious at the Liberal government's decision to relocate a middle school from downtown to a suburban neighbourhood.

Education Minister Kelly Lamrock announced the controversial news on a Friday afternoon, hours before the end of the last business day before Christmas.

Lamrock, who seldom turns down a chance for a media interview, issued a news release Friday afternoon decreeing that Albert Street Middle School will be moved to Kimble Road. A Department of Education spokesman said the minister would have no further comment about the issue.

The Lord government had decided that the centrally located Albert Street school would be replaced by a new building on the same site.

Parents and teachers had opposed the Kimble Road site, but Lamrock said in his news release that schools don't exist to make parents or teachers happy.

"It is not the child's job to have a school where adults find it convenient or emotionally satisfying. So while I have heard many of these arguments, they are not factors," he said in the release.

Leslie Balcolm is one of a number of parents with children at Albert Street who is angry about the government's decision. "I really find that quite offensive."

Balcom says she can't understand why the minister would make the change when the ground has already been laid to keep the school where it is.

She and other parents are forming a lobby group to pressure the education minister to reconsider his switch in plans. "We had a decision made before. Why should we accept that this is the permanent one?"




Education minister's decision on replacement site for Albert Street Middle School (06/12/22)

NB 1602

Dec. 22, 2006

FREDERICTON (CNB) - The following statement regarding a replacement site for Albert Street Middle School was issued today by Education Minister Kelly Lamrock:

"If one is faced with a tough, intractable decision on where to build a new middle school, it helps to consult with parents, teachers and community leaders. And then you should go to an elementary-school Christmas concert.

"While at my son's Christmas concert, I realized that the real constituency here is children in elementary school now. They are the ones who will live with this decision, and they are the constituency. While they often rely on adults to debate their interests for them, adult views are only valuable to the decision insofar as they further the child's interest.

"So when you have two different sites from which to choose, you have to exclude a lot of arguments that have to do with adult concerns, not children's.

"That means that there are certain things that are excluded as factors because they are not relevant to the experience the child has in the school. It is not the child's job to have a school where adults find it convenient or emotionally satisfying. So while I have heard many of these arguments, they are not factors.

* Schools do not exist so that an adult can walk to a child's school.
* Schools do not exist so that a parent can work close to a child's school.
* Schools do not exist to raise a neighbourhood's self-esteem or property values.
* Schools do not exist to satisfy adults' desire for continuity or tradition.
* Schools do not even exist to make teachers happy, although teachers make a school a good place for children to learn.

"I make these points not to minimize the role of parents. I, too, volunteer at my child's school, drive to extracurricular activities, and occasionally drive between my work and my child's school. These are important, wonderful experiences. But the role of a school is not to facilitate these things, or consider them alongside the interests of the child. Parents like us simply adapt our lives around the ones our children lead, and we find a way to do it wherever a school may be.

"What this government is faced with is a choice between two sites for a school. One, at Albert Street, is alive with a school there today that is a top-notch learning community, with staff who believe in the children and work extra hours for them. The other, at Kimble Road, has space and recreation facilities beyond most sites, but whispers only its potential.

"When you visit a lot of schools, as a minister of education does, you quickly realize what a small role the site plays in the success of a school. A school is first and foremost about people - the ideas and choices and passion that educators bring, the volunteer support of parents, the love of learning we hope children have.

"Sometimes, when these things are present, we can sell ourselves short. We start to believe that the building where all these wonderful things happen is doing it for us, transferring all that positive energy to us. But this is an illusion. People animate a building, not the other way around. The people who make Albert Street Middle School great will be a constant.

"If buildings made the school, and emotion and tradition decided the issue, I would never replace the building where I attended school, Albert Street. I still love walking into it. But the building is important because of what happened there. And now, the building is clearly outdated and ready to become history.

"So the choice of where the new one goes is worth getting right, but students will have a first-class education at either site.

"What would draw me to Albert Street is that teachers have been using the site for years and have built up ways to use its central location and adjacent services as ways to enhance teaching and extracurricular activities. And they do it well, walking to cultural events, athletic facilities, and using community resources and volunteers.

"Other schools' faculty do this too, just with different ingredients. A staff at Kimble Road would soon turn those same creative powers to the strengths of that site, just as I've seen done at schools such as Liverpool, Park Street, Barker's Point and Nashwaaksis Middle School. Some things Albert Street teachers do well will be dislodged and even lost in the transition - that is undeniable. What replaces those things is less tangible, but very likely.

"The canvas for creativity at Kimble, with three times the space and more recreation facilities, cries out for a team of educators to take it on. In a system where educators develop parks, interactive learning centres, outdoor teaching activities - the Kimble site was chosen because it is such a rich canvas. It is hard to take the leap of faith to leave what is for what could be. But if people make a site, the Kimble site is rich with opportunity for the right people.

"In the end, we have a chance to put a bigger, richer, better site in the hands of the people who do great work. The transition will pose more challenges for the adults in the community today. But the children, the ones not yet there, will benefit from the work the adults do to make the best site as good as it can be. Our government will work with them and give them resources. And for all the discomfort change brings, children will be better off.

"Kimble Road has been selected as the site for the new school, to open in September 2009. We further pledge to make the Albert Street site available for recreational use by George Street Middle School, and ask officials to review community and educational options for the Albert Street site, given its location at the heart of a residential neighbourhood."

12 comments:

Anonymous said...

Does anyone know if a majority of parents prefer the school at one site or the other? Was there ever a questionare sent to all those effected or did the previous government just "decide" to rebuild in the same location. I don't hear a lot of people in my area..(Skyline/Southwood Park) complaining about it moving. Is it possible if asked the majority would be happy with this new location anyway?

Anonymous said...

The professionals all wanted it built on Kimble, because it's a far superior site in terms of present facilities and room for growth, and because kids downtown are more likely yo get into trouble, but Brad Green got the Tories to approve Albert Street anyway. Why? Because Albert Street was in his riding, for one thing. Plus, the rich mucky-muck parents live downtown, and they wanted it downtown. God forbid their little darlings would take a bus to school.

There's likely a few kids whose parents work downtown who'll have to take a bus now instead of getting chauffeured.

Honestly, I can't believe the self-centeredness of the parents who are moaning about this. It boggles the mind that with all the real problems in NB and the world, these fatcats are trying to generate protest about this. Let them put their energy into helping at the Community Kitchen, or lobbying to get social assistance rates increased. Or more money for legal aid or childcare or foreign debt relief.

For the record, my kid goes to middle school in fall 2009. He'll be bused to whichever site.

Anonymous said...

Kelly got it right on this one!!! He made the right decision for all the right reasons. Frederictonians are known for their liking things to stay the same, or not vary far from it. Although Kelly is from Freddy Beach...he is thinking into the future, with sound logical reasoning.
I'm anxious to see what he will be doing in the Inclusive Education file!

Spinks said...

While there are obviously some folks upset (there always are when this type of decision is made). Kimble seems to make a lot more sense, although not everyone agrees with me. More here ;

http://spinkaboutit.blogspot.com/2007/01/new-middle-school-proves-moving-ahead.html

Anonymous said...

From Spinks website:

I don't think that the location of the school is the major issue here. The issue is the disgraceful way that the Minister of Education treated all the people involved in the matter.

The Kimble Rd. location may very well be the best location for the new school. If the Minister believed this, he would have the stones to announce the decision properly, and then defend his position publicly. Instead, a press release is issued the Friday afternoon before the holiday break, and the Minister has been "unavailable for comment" since. The Official Opposition is also unable to question the Government on the matter, because the Legislative Assembly will not convene until sometime next month.

Locating a new school will never please anybody, and some feelings are bound to be hurt. The Minister of Education should treat this matter with the respect it deserves. Instead, he has attempted to bury the news, and avoided any discussion of the matter. This is another example of why I oppose any pay raises for politicians.
The public employs these people, and when the public has questions, they expect their employees to answer.

Spinks said...

For truth in advertising anon 7:12's posting is indeed from my site but it's from a commentator.

Anonymous said...

While the anon letter spinks reproduced is correct in pointing out that the location will never please everyone. The fact remains that for the most part only those that happen to disagree with this "new" location are going to have any of the ill feelings discribed in his letter. As with most things like this Its all a matter of which side of the fence you happen to be on. Also I have to admit I don't really recall what happened the first time around with the orignal decision so find it hard to judge the reaction now in comparison.

Anonymous said...

If anybody knew anything they would smell land owner "KICK BACK" all over this. The man who owns the land is a big liberal and it just so happens acres going for a very large sum in the area. I wonder who will have a nice election office next time with lots of advertising? Makes me laugh, to think that "Hamhock" always wants to be in the media to get his ugly mug shot on there and to cowardly only turn in a piece of paper? HOw pathetic.

Anonymous said...

That's pretty selective knowledge up above, so its not surprising nobody thought of it. Are we talking about hte owner of the Kimble Road site? Wouldn't he get money if he sold it to developers? Anybody know who it is? That's a very interesting angle.

Anonymous said...

In that picture he looks like he's trying out for a part in a Boris Carloff movie lol

Anonymous said...

In addition to the obvious issue of kickbacks for this -- as the Liberals love to do -- wasn't there also the issue brought up that it was closer for his OWN son to be traveling to this school when it's on Kimble Drive? Isn't that somewhat hipocritcal to make a big press release that "it doesn't matter if it's closer for the parents" and then he picks a site that makes it more convenient for himself? Makes me sick.

And I keep hearing on the news that there's a website setup by the coalition to keep Albert Street school where it is, yet I can find nothing on it, and the radio never announces the actual URL for the site! Is it not live yet, or are the Liberals censoring what info is given over the air, as well?

Anonymous said...

here's the link requested:

http://www.keepalbertstreetcentral.com/why-keep-albert-central/?page_id=13#4