Sunday, April 15, 2007

The debate over Afghanistan continues!!! By Mike (www.broadcastnb.com)


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by Mikel (www.broadcastnb.com)

There are considered to be four great failings of canadian government policy in Afghanistan . The first is the lack of attention to development; the second, Canada’s agreement to hand over insurgents to a country that openly practices torture (the US); the third, the government’s light stance toward Pakistan where insurgents routinely run for safety and training; and finally, the country’s endorsement of the countrys so-called ‘democracy’.

Relatively little development aid has been forthcoming and most of the ‘rebuiding’ effort has been in weapons and security. Crucial Afghan structures are regularly left unattended while the military’s official task of roaming throughout rural Afghanistan looking for Taliban and opium is conducted. This has left development up to non government organizations and former diplomats such as Rory Stewart, whose Turquoise Mountain Project attempts to provide jobs and a renewed sense of purpose to the Afghan people. Their tiny budget and success stories show just how much COULD be possible, if our attacking countries were more concerned with the Afghan people.

The press makes a big deal whenever ANY development is accomplished, to the point of celebrating individual schools. Of course there were always schools, and people quickly forget that the Taliban was not ‘ruler of the country’ but simply the more powerful sect in many of the populated areas. There were numerous areas of Afghanistan where they had no authority and schools were common.

Yet the popular media often even distorts the development itself. Much was made of the fact that increased funds were offered by Harper last spring in the laudible aim of building more wells in Kabul

Yet not mentioned was the fact that most of this water was intended for military use, and it was even being sold by the Canadian military to other forces in the country.

Second, is the policy of handing over 'suspected' insurgents to american forces without due regard to their ultimate safety. We know that the US has openly declared it uses torture and denies basic human rights. Not only at Guantanamo Bay, but last year it was discovered the CIA was using european airports as stopovers while delivering captured insurgents to countries friendly to the US where even more brutal torture is actively encouraged. What is also not mentioned is the general effect this witchhunt has on Afghanistan, where a person can simply point at somebody they don't like and have them 'disappeared'. Basic computer skills now mean that 'evidence' can quickly and easily be fabricated, and the consequences deadly.

That canadian soldiers who hand over such people to the US could very well later be charged with a war crime is not something that is often mentioned by those who 'support our troops' because it is never mentioned in the popular media. Virtually never is it acknowledged in the media that several air force pilots cannot travel safely in europe because any number of countries would arrest them and try them for crimes in the former Yugoslavia where air attacks destroyed numerous civilian structures including a chinese embassy. While the government officials who gleefully endorsed NATO's bombing can safely travel with impunity, once again it is the soldiers who 'just followed orders' who must pay the cost.

Another basic reality seldom mentioned is that while the US openly refused to sign and abide by the terms of the International Criminal Court, Canada is a signatory to that court, leading to a situation where in the future an american soldier guilty of odious acts in Afghanistan would walk away scot free, while a canadian soldier who was 'just following orders' and did something relatively minor could be tried by the international criminal court. If this were mentioned, perhaps some of those people who claim to be 'supporting the troops' would think twice about what exactly that means. People should be reminded that germans who did no more than guard prisoners or blow up infrastructure like dams and dykes which didn't even result in any injuries were summarily executed for 'crimes against humanity'. While it may be comforting to stand on the sidelines and say ‘that probably won’t happen’, as they say, ‘talking is easy, living is hard’.

Third is the Canadian government’s overt friendliness with the Pakistan government. While much is made of Afghani ‘democracy’, it is seldom mentioned that our main ally in the region, Pakistan, is essentially a military dictatorship and has been for quite some time. On occasion an election will be held, but if a trace of democracy opens up the country is quickly taken over again by the military. It is as corrupt a military as any other military dictatorship, and the abuses and atrocities that were carried out by the Taliban are easily found in Pakistan as well.

This is of central importance because Taliban and ‘actual’ terrorists easily find sanctuary in Pakistan, where US and Canadian military cannot follow. Essentially this operates as a home base, the ‘training ground’ that the Taliban used to be charged with fostering. Of course other home bases exist in that other ‘friendly’ Islamic republic of Saudi Arabia, a country which very much IS the ‘islamic-fascist’ state that many commentors claim we must go to war to get rid of (except in those cases).

Canada’s friendliness with Pakistan extends far further than simply tolerating them. Like China and Indonesia, Canadian companies openly operate within, and often encourage terrorism that helps their industry. And as usual, the Canadian government serves to accommodate its largest companies.

In this, the current government simply follows the policy of the former liberal government. So for example, the Canadian Investment Development Agency (CIDA), has heavily invested in Pakistan’s ‘Petroluem House’, in a story covered virtually nowhere in Canadian press, and isn’t even mentioned at the CIDA website (but is at Asiatimes). Canada’s corporate interests preclude any heavy handedness in dealing with suspected terrorists in Pakistan or the sanctuary they offer terrorists. Once again, it comes down to oil-and soldiers and Afghani's are the ones who suffer.

Finally, like in Pakistan, the Canadian government has a ‘hands off’ policy when it comes to internal Afghani matters. This is odd, considering that one of the frequently stated reasons for overthrowing the Taliban was its barbarity and disregard for human rights. Yet the atrocities continue to mount in the new government and previously banned tribal customs that essentially amount to human slavery are once again becoming more common, just as they were before the Taliban came into power, making many commentors claim that current NATO policies eerily mirror previous soviet policy. One interview with an Afghani government worker voiced the opinion succinctly that ‘at least the soviets built dams and bridges’.

The government itself can be described with no other words but a joke. In every political system it can easily be seen how manipulation and irregularities can make the claim ‘democratic’ seem far fetched. Much is made in the media about the ‘democratic elections’ and much is discussed as to how Afghani’s braved murder to run, and even to vote in order to engage in democracy. This is not unusual, it seems almost a given that people prefer democracy over the option, yet then we have problems with what exactly is meant by ‘democracy’, and are people being cheated with what WE think is democracy.’

In Afghanistan, people have no effective power over policy. Strangely enough, that beacon of US democracy, namely direct democracy, is never sought in cases where the US is building democracy in foreign lands. Canadian media had many grandiose articles about the contribution that Canada made to Afghanistans constitution. To the people there, however, this was not an accolade but an insult. As Canadians are well aware, Canadian democracy means putting an X next to a ballot and hoping for the best, then repeating the function in four years, typically choosing amongst parties that have very few dissimilarities in an archaic electoral system that essentially ensures that dissent is moot. In Canada, at least people can lobby and protest, yet in Afghanistan such actions can have you labelled a terrorist.

So Elections Canada gave Afghanistan its blessing for a ‘legitimate election’, missing one large caveat-that most of the people running were criminals. The parallel in Canada would be if we opened up our jails to all organized crime members and had our election with only them and a few others running. While the ‘form’ may be democratic, meaning we get to vote, the substance is far from democracy. This led to the current situation where 60% of the ‘People’s House’ is made up of the warlord’s that people supported the Taliban in order to overthrow.

That Afghanistan is a ‘democracy’ is an even more ludicrous proposition on closer inspection. Like Canada, Afghanistan has basically three levels of government with similar names. However, only the federal politicians are voted for. At the provincial level this would be the equivalent of having federal politicians ‘nominate’ who our provincial and municipal leaders are.

Even more problematic is that at the provincial level the constitution doesn’t even set out what that level of government is supposed to do. Unlike Canada, where provincial and federal jurisdictions are stated clearly (although frequently debated) nobody has any idea what provincial representatives are even supposed to do.

To make matters even worse, the situation deteriorates even further at the municipal level where no representatives exist at all. This has led to a reversal to tribalism, where once again we see grotesque violations of human rights, in particular when it comes to women. Those who use singular examples to identify Taliban barbarity would do well to find reliable sources on what is currently going on.

What this ultimately leads to is a largely centralized and completely illegitimate decision making body which makes any claim to democracy seem absurd. What this should necessitate is even more involvement by the UN and allied governments in ensuring that democracy means what the people of Afghanistan actually want. However, in the current climate, even voicing such dissent can have a person ‘disappeared’. Recently, the country’s only online newspaper was removed, even making claims of a semi-independent press absurd.

Currently, what gets out are military press releases and government party lines, which once again has eerie similarities to how the soviets operated. Stories are dumbed down to the point of ‘us good-them bad’ and critical analysis is rarely heard. The key difference is that in the soviet union people people knew full well what the party line was, however, because media ownership is tentatively separate from government, many in north America are under the impression that, as one media claim, reports are ‘fair and balanced’.

The ultimate tragedy in this is that policy, meaning what is actually done, is overlooked. This somewhat makes sense, since once again the reality is that even if Canadians pay close attention to what is do and isn’t, and what COULD be done and isn’t, they have no power over those who make the ultimate decisions anyway. The 'solutions' to those problems are clear. When you do something wrong-stop doing it. If it is REALLY wrong, then usually doing the opposite is the case. In the case of Afghanistan, the easiest thing to do is simply ask them, which is why in the mainstream media we almost never hear the voices most affected-Afghanis.

Currently, in order to survive Afghans have had to turn completely to opium. Yet here the added complexity has military barred from looking at who are considered the main trafficers of opium, Afghan officials and even the CIA, and looking for the poor individuals growing them out of desperation and survival.

Development, of course, means more than putting up KFC's and McDonald's stores. It is a basic moral imperative that if you destroy something, you are responsible for rebuilding it. Rebuilding Afghanistan does not involve hunting down terrorists. As Rory Stewart claims in his book "THe places in Between", when you are fighting terrorists, if you don't have the average citizens on your side, it is hopeless. Canada's current policy is to ignore Afghans and hunt down Taliban. That is the wrong policy, the correct one is to ACTUALLY do what governments claim they are doing in soundbytes, which is protect Afghan infrastructure and rebuild the country with Afghani's best interests in mind. That is not hard to do, as virtually all commentors who spend time in Afghanistan claim Afghani's are thrifty, kind, determined people. However, as many commentators claim, since the US and Canada themselves aren't run with their citizens best interests in mind, we can't expect that their actions in Afghanistan will be based on the best interests of Afghans.

10 comments:

Anonymous said...

Its good to hear someone argue for making changes to the way Canadian forces are used in Afghanistan instead of the usual line of simply pulling out. Its obvious he has his own personal bias(and who doesn't) such as being overly obsessed with media conspiracies and slightly selective memory when it comes to the Taliban. But at least he tries to remain realistic. For some in here that's next to impossible.

Anonymous said...

"We know that the US has openly declared it uses torture and denies basic human rights."


must have missed that declaration.where can i find that?

Anonymous said...

On torture:

http://hrw.org/doc/?t=usai_torture

http://slate.msn.com/default
.aspx?id=2057099

http://www.ohchr.org/english/bodies
/hrc/docs/ngos/wohr.pdf

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com
/torture.html

http://www.usiraqprocon.org/bin/procon
/procon.cgi?database=5-C-subs-4.db&
command=viewone&op=

http://web.amnesty.org/library
/Index/ENGAMR510512006
t&id=12&rnd=533.7973167904948

http://www.airtorture.com

particular reference to canada (options):

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap
/2006/10/18/europe/EU_GEN_Norway
_Afghanistan.php

As for the media, its not a 'conspiracy', its simply the way media functions. Please post in the popular media where some of these factors are mentioned. Of particular interest is the CIDA deal with Pakistan which is mentioned nowhere in north american media, and is not even on the CIDA website which is full of heartfelt stories on how CIDA is helping 'local democracy'. In a military dictatorship this is absurd.

"Operation Achilles", which was the major spring offensive mentioned you'd think would be big news. If you type it into a browser its interesting because there is NO media mention of it for the first three pages. It MAY be covered somewhere, but not extensively.

The descriptions of it, which are not secret by any means, are featured at 'guerilla news network' and several Peace activist sites. It's also got some links at CNN where it is described.

CBC has an article the day after the operation launched, which consists of six paragraphs which are essentially military handouts with commentary from any sources, and certainly no afghan sources. As mentioned, there is far more information at the alternative websites.

Anonymous said...

Now there you go again anonymous getting yourself all bent out of shape about the media and ignoring the important things. Like how this particular post tries to suggest ways our troops could be helping the situation in Afghanistan. You really have to get past where you read your information from and start looking at the real questions.
You know questions that actually are meaningful. But no you have to forsake any kind of civil discussion and just get all anal about the media again.
Do you not agree that we should be doing all we can to assure the men and women we send over there do whats right? That we do everything we can to make sure our government uses our men and women in a way to best serve the people of Afghanistan?
Or wait a minute...your not one of those that simply want to pull the boys out are you? The simple minded solution? Surely one with so well read is not that simple?

Spinks said...

Since he’s not coming clean himself for reasons known only to himself, let’s be clear that Mike who wrote this article and Anon 8:59 are one in the same. This is also the same guy who has drawn comparisons betweenthe Canadian Military and Nazi Germany. He of course is free to do that, but I get this feeling that the only military action Mike wants to see Canada take is having soldiers shovel his driveway at his home in Ontario. That's his business but I'll take the Canadian Military over the Taliban anyday.

Anonymous said...

I think putting my name up there is pretty straightforward and the followup was pretty clear. As for 'anal' about the media, there was only maybe one sentence on each issue that was even about the media. Simply mentioning that fact that very important issues are not covered adequately by media is hardly being 'anal'. In fact,if all that JP gets out of the article is the stuff about media then its actually YOU who is anal about media. So just get over it.

As for what 'we' should be doing, that's a different question and in something as complicated as a war everything can't be squeezed into one article, so I'll have to do as Charles says and say 'stay tuned', since that is an important question, but not one with a simple solution. But as you can see, there is all kinds of discussion here, so its clearly not the case that I don't want discussion. In fact, I COULD have just posted it at the broadcastnb site and had no comments at all.

Spinks is doing his usual muckraking, but I do encourage people to go read that link he has, I was trying to figure out a way to link people to it myself. Of course he is doing like the mainstream media and attempting to take something out of context so that people disregard the issues, the old 'shoot the messenger' rhetoric.

Fortunately, there are plenty of anti war people here, unlike his site, so not everybody here simply wants people goosestepping to the government's drumbeat. "Nazi Germany" was a government, a political party, so obviously you can't compare a political party to a military, they are two different things. In fact, read up on nazi germany, one of those things seldom mentioned in media or even in texts was that there was considerable opposition in the military to Hitlers policies-just look at the US for comparisons to that, its virtually identical, and getting more and more identical all the time.

The military even tried on numerous occasions to assassinate Hitler, one time coming very close. Militaries are usually FAR less despicable than their political masters. And remember, it is politicians who call the shots-not the military. In the US it is well known that virtually every military intelligence adviser warned Bush not to invade Iraq, for the reasons that have since occurred.

The National Socialist Party was anything BUT 'socialist', but actually you can see many comparisons to Harpers policies-these are 'tough on crime' policies that cut social and now lately diplomatic funding in order to focus on weapons buildup and military spending. So THERE is a comparison. Only a numbskull would think anybody is carrying the comparison any further than that.

For the military, they essentially operate EXACTLY, or at least almost exactly as the nazi military did, and as virtually every military in the world operates. They are given a mission and accomplish it to the best of their abilities. It is a top down hierarchy where soldiers follow orders. What the orders are is the relevant question. Again, nobody is carrying the comparison any further than that, and only idiots that think issues can be dumbed down to one sentence would think otherwise.

As for what people think the military should be doing, everybody is entitled to their own opinion, and there's nothing wrong with shovelling driveways. Take a look at how many seniors and now middle age people die each year shovelling their driveways and thats actually not a bad thought. However, specifics about what the military should be doing is pretty moot, people can argue til they are blue in the face and it will have no effect on policy.

What MAY have an effect on policy is the numbers of people who DO stand up and say 'bring the boys back home', because thats a political movement, unlike debates about what they should be doing and why. So the more people who show up at anti-war demonstrations, the more likely it is that government will pay attention to its policies. So if enough people protest 'no more war', then the government parties may make capitulations in order to get votes, so we lately see the Green Party making policy recommendations, and other parties as well.

So the protests make sense, they make more people pay attention and look at the issue and perhaps get political enough to call politicians on it. So even Charles frequent refrain of "we just have to get out of there" serves a purpose, even if our government doesn't do that, they may at least modify policies. Current policies have soldiers going out and looking for Taliban, which is what is getting them killed.

Note that once again, this 'operation achilles' is being carried out at the request of the Afghan government, that completely illigitimate group of ex criminals. So since when is it canadian policy to take orders from ex and perhaps even current criminals?

Anonymous said...

Is that right spinks? They are one in the same? Do you mean he Mikey here actually pens this kind of stuff yet doesn't have the....nerve...to defend it in his own name. He is that insecure with his own thoughts he has to come to his own defence anonymously? Wow, that's pretty much the textbook description of anal retentive. "A person seen as overly worried about small details, who is uptight or distressed over ordinarily minor problems, unable to adopt a philosophical attitude towards mistakes."
It is worth noting that once again anonymike still ignores those few questions posed of what we should be doing in and with Afghanistan. You would think with all that web browsing anonymike has done some of his buddies might actually have had a solution or two he could paraphrase. But hey, you can always just shout Bring the Boys home!

Anonymous said...

There was actually several solutions up there you didn't bother to read. And it was easy. As for the anonymous, I mentioned that before, I just didn't bother clicking in the box. It was pretty obvious that it was a reply to the person who actually had a question, so its pretty obvious it was the same person.

Actually, it was quite amusing because the first comment from JP was actually quite complimentary... until the poster recognized who it was that wrote it, so it was worth posting anonymously just to see that bit of hypocrisy.

Of course "just passing" could very well be "spinks" with just another nickname, its remarkably easy to do and the tone and arguments are virtually identical. In fact, perhaps all of these commments are just Charles filling them in with his different 'brains'.

On the internet anybody can say anything, "Just passing" (or should I say "spinks"-boy, now THAT isn't anal retentive, thats just creepy guy). So unless a person has their real name up there like Charles or Brent Taylor they really shouldn't be throwing stones from their glass houses.

Glad to see that there was so little criticism from my harshest critics, when it so quickly turns to how I sign my name I consider that a positive compliment!:)

Spinks said...

That's only from a few years of experience of reading his stuff and debating him JP. I should have learned a long time ago to stop doing both but he sucks me in. His writing is compelling from time to time although a bit on the anarchy side.

Anonymous said...

I see what you mean spinks. He does have a distinctive style but i just can't get past that anonymous nonsense, so childish.
Check out the chronologic order of the posts anonymike You were anal long before spinks connected the dots. The only hypocrisy I see here is the suggestion that after writing endless paragraphs of double talk you just...can't...click...that ...mouse...one...more...time and use your name. I mean heck if using mikey is to personal try something else. Heck Big Mikey or Big Dick or even A.R. But to suggest I am the same as yourself who can't even follow up his own work with the same nic, well that is just sad. You have actually debated him spinks? He never actually says anything and he sure doesn't answer questions. I do find him amusing though and you have to admit he is prolific.