I was told a few days ago that the Government and the Canadian Army are getting ready for the death of 45 Canadian Soldiers.
These kits are the Canadian Flag and other items.
I guess 45 soldiers will be killed in future months.
This means that Stephen Harper will definitely call an election this spring!!!!
We got to get the hell out of there!!!!
Canada is supposed to be a peace making country!!!
So with the two deaths yesterday? This means there’s 43 deaths to come!!!
My prayers are with the families and future families who are going to lose their loved ones because of a tasteless War!
The Government want to protect people?
They better guard our dams in New Brunswick.
If we wish to go into a war? We must protect ourselves!
P.S. The photo of the Canadian Flag was taken by myself last fall. It’s a reflection of from the Saint John River.
18 comments:
A few things Charles.
1. Yes that is a cool picture of the fag reflection.
2. I also question the motive of the war. Or better "Why exactly are we there?"
3. I have read in your past blogs and by talking to other people that soldiers don't want to be there. Well my question is are we sure of this? Did anybody actually talk to the soldiers? The reason I ask is because from what I can see in the main stream media is that the soldiers are proud to be there and that some actually volunteer to go. Some of them actually volunteer to go a second time.
Yes I feel so bad for the families of the dead soldiers and my condolences are with them. But they seem to be dying happy to be doing what they do. They are proud to be there fighting for the social rights of that country.
So maybe we should "yes me included" not be so critical of the war over there. We are lucky that we have a democracy and social values they don't. So our brave soldiers are gladly going there to fight for them. Well that is the perception that I am getting from the news on TV and in the papers.
Well i know for a Fact that there is at lease one that is there because he wants to. He's some type of mechanic for the helicopters. I don't think he goes out on the field but i'm sure he's still not safe wherever he is. He's doing this for the money, He actually begged to go out.
Same thing with me all I hear from the media is that they are proud to go out to fight for there country, no mater what happens. My condolences to the families. I sure know that I would not be able to do what they do!! Thanks Guys!!!
You should get your news from more than TV. That's how media works during wartime, it was common for US soldiers to talk about how happy they were to be in Vietnam.
However, this isn't just about how soldiers feel, if it were, then there would be no judicial system since in many cases even when people do wrong they 'volunteered' to do it.
Not to mention that people can be taught to believe anything, and if you go by mainstream news then people may well think "we're just going to help that poor country". That's not the case at all, but thats what you are SUPPOSED to believe so that you won't object too strongly as fellow canadians are shipped back in coffins.
Plus, as Charles vaguely mentions, if terrorism occurs in canada it won't be on an army base, it will be in a shopping mall or some other minimally guarded place. That means that we citizens are at risk and have a responsibility and a danger, so its not just up to soldiers, at least they are armed when attacked, we have no such defenses.
Is it your opinion then anonymous 12:45 that our soldiers should be back home walking armed patrols at our power plants and in our malls? Is that how est to protect the citizens of Canada? Now wouldn't that go over with the majority that post in here on the war in Afghanistan? As for your assumption that main stream media is pro war perhaps you should actually pay a little closer attention. The media has actually done a good job of balancing their coverage and it could be argued that if anything they are slightly anti war. What they don't do is rant aimlessly like many that like to vent in here. (when you start to quote the Magna Carta in your as some have here you really do have too much time on your hands)
I am the wife of one of the soldiers over in Afghanistan, and my husband chose to go over there because he wanted to, and that is also his job. He is glad to be there helping to make a difference for the people of that country.
Save your arbitrary comments, folks, the vast majority of our soldiers want to be there. My husdans has over 25 yeasrs in the military....so I know what I am talking about.
That shows you just how bad media is when some people say its anti war and some say its pro war. I've got news for you, and its got nothing to do with the Magna Carta, whatever the hell that has to do with anything, the media isn't supposed to be pro war or antiwar they are supposed to report on it.
But whether soldiers want to go or not is irrelevant, some soldiers may want to go to Saudi Arabia and some may want to go to the Caribbean, but that's not their decision.
And you can't say the media has done a good job of being fair and objective if thats your only source. Here's a quick quiz then: give the names of Afghanistan's Cabinet? No, OK, how about how many people are in their cabinet? How many levels of government are there in Afghanistan? How many of those are elected? How many provinces are there? In which provinces are canadian forces? When did 'operation achilles' begin and what is its purpose? How many people in the Afghanistan government are citizens of Canada? How many are former Mujahadeen? According to military sources, what are the biggest obstacles to 'pacifying' the southern provinces? (hint: there are two). No cheating, you aren't allowed to look that up on the internet.
Those are all fairly basic questions that aren't in depth at all or controversial, so I'm assuming everybody following mainstream media knows them.
Anonymous 6:08 If you don't understand something maybe you should ask. If you don't understand the Magna Carta reference then go back a week and look it up although from reading the rest of your nonsense I would not be the least bit surprised if you were not fully involved in that foolishness also.
As to your childish and simplistic attempt to show us all how so very worldly you are lets just say if that is how you measure ones knowledge of world affairs I'd suggest you better get out a little more. How about you tell us a little about your own country? Off the top of your head of course. How many seats in the house of commons, In the senate. How amny are surrently vacant? Tell us the number of seats held by each party? How many women are currently setting in the house? How many independents? How many Canadians are currently serving in our armed forces? How many are in Afghanistan? I don't mean roughly I mean the exact number. How many Canadians are working for nco's in Afghanistan right now? No cheating now,your not allowed to look it up.
That is most assuredly about the stupidest attempt to argue this war I have yet to hear. It almost makes the Magna Carta argument sound good.
Here's an interesting fact that probably most don't know or could even fathom. By the way, for the record I support our troops 1000% and stand deside them all the way. Anyway I learned of a statistic that in the City of New York and its boroughs they have over 95,000 police officers.....the Canadian military only has a litle over 72,000 serving members. Pretty sad. We need more support for the military and its soldiers, airmen and sailors.
The USA also has the highest incarceration rates in the world,what else would you do with all the officers but legislate more garbage laws to put people into thier run for profit jail system? The US has turned into a facist paranoid Police State!
I support our soldiers but dont support a government that supports a war that was born out a lie and is being fought with no true direction or sign of victory! The US backed the Afaghanistan war with Russia ,Backed Bin Laden and they were the creators of Saddam Hussein ! Follow the money and see who profits from the deaths(corporations) who cares how many seats there are in parliment or how many ncos,why should our country go into deep debt for a war that has nothing to do with us in Canada. The US government/CIA created these beasts let them deal with it !
One thing is for sure ,We will lose more young people to this big lie!
War is big money and the US seems to always find or create some boogeyman to go after to use their expensive war Machine,follow the money as it leads to the real perpetrators of war.
Why Exactly are We there?= Money Money Money Money! Thats the answer, EVIL CORPORATE GREED this is the simple answer as there is no other!
It sure is the simplist answer....If you don't think too hard about it.
Actually, I didn't say that I knew those answers, I just said they were pretty basic questions. I know all those answers about the canadian legislature except one, I won't labour that point because there's no way of proving that I didn't look it up and who really cares?
But thanks for posting that, because those are VERY basic questions about canadian politics as well, and I would hazard a guess that a good percentage of people don't know those either-again, thats because media never mentions them. I don't know what kind of knowledge 'just passing' thinks is 'out in the streets', maybe he's an MLA and deals with this stuff all the time but the vast majority of canadians don't know the answers to those and don't care, that is easily proven by Canada's very low voter turnout.
But go through Irvings newspapers and try to find ANY of those answers. You might find some of them buried on a media website, but they certainly aren't discussed. So 'Just passing' simply helps prove my point-thanks so much. I'm far from trying to boast about knowledge, but am making a point. With the internet all that information is fairly readily available, but again, not at mainstream media sites.
Right after an election those issues might be mentioned but that's it. In fact, I would put money on betting how many people can name five pieces of legislation that is currently being debated in the New Brunswick house. It's embarassing to say that the best source for legislature coverage isn't ANY media outlet but nbpolitico.blogspot.com, a guy who often watches the sessions and paraphrases them afterwards. The media talks to death about the ATV legislation, but that's pretty much it. So forget Charles, he never talks about the legislature and says he doesn't even watch it, so he doesn't even deserve to have press credentials in there. But this nbpolitico guy should be given one and if he ever wants to apply for one I'll send him the hundred bucks.
That's not people's fault, I'm not implying that people are stupid, this is about the media and its obligation to keep people informed. People don't have time to do a research project on every issue thats out there, thats why they use the media.
In fact, you can go back to Charles archives and you'll notice that when Charles first started talking about roomers and boarders rights that even MLA's had no idea that roomers and boarders didn't have any rights under the Residential Tenants Act and could be evicted at any time!
That's not unusual, you can go read any book on federal politics and members and former members of Parliament will quite openly talk about how they even vote for bills without even reading them. Very, very few bills are ever mentioned by the mainstream media. That was one of the first concerns about blogging, and politicians often spoke quite nervously that bloggers were going to start bringing out all these issues that they didn't want out. Garth Turner, no matter how people feel about him, was kicked out of the conservative party because he had a blog where he was telling people what was going on in government.
So that about covers it for mainstream media, if people want to check their skills, check out those questions above, especially those ones two comments up. Thanks for proving my point JP.
I was waiting for somebody to open that discussion up, I'm not surprised 'Just passing' as usual is trying to change the subject or kill it, but if people read this far they should check out www.skyreporter.com which is an excellent site on afghanistan by canadian correspondent Aurthur Kent. Or, they can keep listening to the corporate news and think they are 'being objective although I've never heard any other news'.
We are kept ignorant for a reason,that is so the government can keep pulling the wool over our collective eyes!.............. Can you imagine if Law ( and I mean all law going right back to the Magna Carta into Confederation and so on) and politics was a course taught to us in school like say math or science do you think we would still be involved in these messes that our government creates?
These Soldiers we sent over follow what they are taught and trained to do and the political side is usually completely out of their minds,the government dosent really care what happens to them as the are just to be sacrificed for the elites gain!
We have to keep trying to dig for the real truth thats hidden behind all the smoke and mirrors of the media and legalease of law,remember what you see on the news is usually slanted if not by the media then by the people giving it to the media and its getting alot worse in the last 7 years starting with 9-11-01...
You just don't seem to get it do you anonymous 7:56. You are so sure that you have all the answers you can't see past your own rhetoric. I hate to burst your little bubble but I am sorry to say what you have found is nothing new. Nor has it any more chance of providing you the "answer" in and of itself than the main stream media. At best all you have found a place that happens to agree with your already preconceived notions of, in this case the war in Afghanistan.
You are really no different than those "Friends of Fox Fanatics" who believe that Fox News is the only true source of all real news information. Just like you they pay lip service to being "fair and Balanced" and just like you they ignore anything that doesn't fit in their own narrow little view.
You lament how you are waiting for "somebody to open that discussion up". But if you recall it was You that came here insinuating no one but you had the real answers. Just like your Fox Friends you really don't want dialogue you just want others to say your right, after all you know all the answers already.
The fact that you automatically assume that anyone disagreeing with your views "must" only glean their information from main stream sources shows how closed minded you really are. When you finally mature enough to realize that you are NOT always right, then you might actually start to find a few answers.
That's pretty funny JP. You just prove my point once again that you are not looking for discussion but just trying to shut it down. How exactly is asking questions inferring that I know all the answers? Right after I posted all those questions about Afghanistan you posted a whole bunch about Canada, does asking those question mean you think you have all the answers? That makes no sense. Not only that I said quite clearly that I DIDN"T know all those answers. I hardly know any answers, that's whats so great about the internet, there are unlimited resources out there to find them, its hardly rocket science or anything to be pump up a chest about 'yes, I know how to type into a search engine'! Yay ME!:)
It makes zero sense to say that believing the mainstream media is not biased is somehow the same as only believing one source. How exactly do you come to that conclusion? Fox is very politically biased, as is mainstream media, that's why you go outside of them and thats what is great about the internet. Like I just said, you can go to skyreporter.com where you can hear Aurthur Kent, a guy who LIVES there and can talk unedited.
How exactly that is the same as dogmatically believing what fox or Irving tells you is beyond me. It's up to people to make up their own minds, and that comes from getting as many sources as possible, and the mainstream media represents one interest-corporate owners, many of whom have a vested interest. Of course this is well known in NB, just a look at Irvings papers shows that quite clearly.
Actually anonymous 5:39 is you took the time to read your own postings you will see that it took your second post to admit you don't have the answers. So don't play word games anonymous, especially when your words are still here. You were perfectly content to suggest that if one didn't know the answers to your questions they were not in a position to say much at all until you were called on it. It was YOUR WORDS that said "Those are all fairly basic questions that aren't in depth at all or controversial, so I'm assuming everybody following mainstream media knows them". Yet now you say its not the answers to these questions that were important but the questions themselves. In fact that YOU don't actually have the answers to them.
Now if you can take your fingers out of your ears long enough try to grasp this concept. You are in fact as far left as Fox News is to the right. You (like those on the far Right) have absolutely no perspective outside your little bubble of a world. That is why so many things look as they do to you. Lack of perspective. That's why people like you can actually set at a keyboard and type "It's up to people to make up their own minds, and that comes from getting as many sources as possible" and yet can't grasp the notion that even when people do they still don't agree with you.
I couldn't care less whether people agree with me, I notice you didn't actually post these words of mine you talk about.
I never said I had those answers, I said they were basic questions,and such basic questions that everyone who watches mainstream media must know them if that source were actually objective. The point was about mainstream media, people's knowledge of events is secondary because they have to get their information from somewhere. People shouldn't be expected to spend hours researching every aspect of government. Places like Norway, where they have dozens of independant media are at least in a better spot since they have more variety of sources. For international events at least canadians can go online for international media sources on them, however, when it comes to canada, or new brunswick, there are few options.
Quite the opposite of JP, I never tell people to 'quit whining' or to stop typing, I actively encourage it. There's nothing I love better than seeing new ideas brought out, that's what a blog comment section is for, the more the better. JP wasn't bringing out new ideas, he was telling people not to pay attention to new ideas-thats a pretty key difference. Again, how all that means the same as fox news that says 'just trust us' is beyond me, I suspect if I said that I had chicken for dinner last night that JP would be saying that that means that I'm no different from Fox News. If people want to disagree with me, I heartily encourage it and welcome it, but I also understand that most people haven't the time or inclination.
A good blog could ultimately replace the mainstream media in the province, and it would be nice to see that happen, but of course its a lot of work. As we talked about with Irving, they don't even give website addresses of their sources, and often don't even mention them. Anybody reading the posted comment from Eric Margolis could simply read the article, and if they disagreed with him, find out why, namely by typing in HIS reference, the "senlis council" and then read their comments. They have even more comments, most based on studies, but by all means people should check out the studies of others.
Anonymous 4:04 the only thing you like to see is people that agree with you. What you call new ideas are neither new or even ideas for the most part. I sure don't recall seeing any "Ideas" from you. Just a lot of criticisms of the media that you call mainstream. You post a blatant biased article from a blatant biased source and call that new Ideas? There is nothing in the Margolis article that I haven't heard before on CBC or even heaven for bid CNN. You accuse me of telling people to ignore a single article (which in fact if you read at all you will see I did not..saying its wrong isn't saying don't read it..thats just your over active imagination at work hearing that. Yet all we hear from you is continuous calls to avoid mainstream media!...Ignore mainstream media! all because you don't agree with it. That my misguided friend is what makes you just like Fox News....you say your one thing...(fair and balanced) but in fact are just the opposite.
If you watch CBC and listen to CBC and read CBC all the time then you will hear just about everything. And I'm talking about mainstream canadian media, CNN is on 24 hours a day but its on cable and not every canadian gets it. People who get BBC will get even more coverage of them, but again, that's not mainstream canadian media.
If the article is 'blatantly biased' then it would be useful to know in what way. What facts are wrong?
Since as JP mentions I don't make an 'new' assertions, I fail to see how it can be that I just want people to agree with me..wouldn't I have to say something for that?
However, I didn't say 'ignore' mainstream media, its a very useful source. Irving is the ONLY source for NB news, so ignoring them is a big mistake. Likewise Rogers is a good source for stories. I don't know why JP is dragging this out, since the idea that Irving has an editorial slant and Rogers has an editorial slant and a bias is hardly ground shaking news.
If you look way back, the original statement was simply 'you shouldn't get your information from just TV'. Hardly a radical statement.
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