Tuesday, November 15, 2005
BERNARD LORD ORDERS THESE PEOPLE AT THE POLL!!!!!
It's getting dark and it's cold but these P.C. MLA will stay till the end. I noticed once they mentioned their names to the voters? They got a little angry! It was then that I found out that Bernard Lord was done. The first site the voters seen was the Perkins guy out front. Second was Hooton husband. Third was Claude William and last was bruce Fitch! Why would the P.C.'S allowed this guy Perkins in their circle?
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From this photo they look like thugs!
From the Telegraph:
Mrs. Hooton was gracious in defeat, walking through the partisan crowd briskly and shaking hands warmly with the doctor to wish him congratulations. Tempers flared, however, when she was leaving the ballroom and a fellow city councillor and Liberal supporter Ivan Court found himself close to the door.
After Mrs. Hooton passed by, her husband Ralph Hooton leaned over to Mr. Court and whispered something in his ear. Mr. Court's eyes bulged like he was astonished.
He then followed the Hootons to the atrium and confronted Mr. Hooton near the elevators, where reporters were busily scrumming his wife.
"Why don't you say what you just said to me in there," Mr. Court bellowed, clearly agitated.
Mr. Hooton and Mr. Court exchanged unpleasant words and then he and his wife left. They were unavailable to comment at press time.
Yes we were all standing around and Hooton and the get - along -gang were just leaving and Mr. Hooton leaned over to Councillor Court and said something and out followed Court and asked if he would repeat in front of the media what he had just said to him. Definitely uncalled for and caught Court off guard; had it been the other way around and if Court had said something this would not of been played down. Mr. Hooton would not have acted as restained as Councillor Court as difficult as it was.
Councillor Court did support Dr. Doherty and did not volunteer or work the compaign but was just there to congratulate Dr. Doherty like everyone else. Bruce Court and Ivan Court are brothers but Ivan did not go door to door dropping off flyers or did he compaign. The flyers were to inform people and not to forget what Premier Lord had done to the citizens of Saint John and if that help to make people think; good job well done. The better person at this time won.
Hooton must of figured people would believe the bull coming from her and Lord. Take the barbeque, food, bikes, money, promises anything offered and run. The day of the election the PC's tried to bring in as many as possible at all the polls to get the votes but they only took the smokes, coffee, food or whatever else and when they went behind to vote they voted the best person who would best represent their area and that was Dr. Doherty.
People were well informed and don't insult them by saying they didn't understand or know the issues. We were not born yesterday. Lord better not forget us again. Thank you Saint Johners!
So what exactly did Mr. Hooton say to Mr. Court? What could Mr. Hooton have possibly accomplished with those remarks (whatever they may be) as all was said & done & his wife lost. A bunch of sore losers not able to take what the public dished out.
So now after all the 'positive' press in the Telegraph a bit of dirty news. Even the paper is saying bye bye Hooton. My how fickle this paper is.
Heres what the Moncton paper had to say:
We Say: Saint John byelection not a vote on Lord's leadership
This byelection outcome says more about the riding than it does about the governing party.
The fact that Premier Bernard Lord represents a Moncton riding makes him an easy target for those who feel disenchanted and disenfranchised.
By rejecting Lord's promises of funding for harbour cleanup and a new downtown justice centre - and the guarantee of a cabinet post for Hooton - Saint John voters have decided to continue to complain, to take comfort in their rapidly expanding underdog status.
So be it; people in Moncton and Fredericton have long since moved past such 'woe is us' thinking and have embraced Lord's attempts to build the economic base of their cities. Is it any wonder those two cities have continued to grow and attract investment while Saint John's population and economic base shrinks?
Those people in the Conservative Party who might think the time is right to draw their knives for a leadership coup against Lord should also think again. The Tories came to power largely on the strength of their leader. Who else within the Tory caucus has the qualifications or stature to lead if Lord goes?Shuffle your cabinet, if you like, Mr. Premier. But do not shed too many tears over Saint John Harbour. It just isn't worth it.
TO 9:34 AM????????
It's not the Moncton paper....please in the future call it the irvings speaks or the irving paper!!!!
I certainly don't agree with the smarmy attitude of the person who wrote that in the Moncton paper, nor do I fully agree with their assessment that it's not a statement of Lord's leadership.
But I do feel there might be a grain... a GRAIN of truth to what they're saying. Saint John is not known for its progressive thinking or attitudes and I wonder if this might be another example of it. The City has shunned on more than one occasion projects that would have helped it grow... we can look as recently as the condos uptown and as far back as the IMax theatre of several years ago.
I think a lot of Saint Johners take the attitude that it's up to someone else to make things better or grow - be it heavy industry (Irving, Moosehead, etc) or the Government. In cities like Moncton and Fredericton (as much as they annoy me) they have city councils and groups who work hard to ensure that businesses DO come to town and people want to stay in the city. In SJ it seems as if the council either doesn't want new business and development or any real growth. We can also blame the City Council until we're blue in the face, but the bottom line is that we elected them.
The discussion of citizens' groups who don't want to see growth is another post (hell, a BOOK) for another time. But it almost seems like we want to stay stagnant by letting the outlying communities take their tax dollars and our services, by discouraging new business and industry and making sure we're as far off the "hot list" of places to live as possible. It's frustrating and I don't know what we can do about it.
Maybe we do revel in our underdog status... but how long before that dog dies?
People in got to outlying areas because of pollution. Overcome the problem of pollution then there is a better chance for city's growth.
I will post a final good blog this evening about the election!
Tough to say what the byelection says about Lord. If it was a traditional Tory riding, I'd read more into it. It's not so again it's hard to say. Still, given the campaign and even if you don't agree with it, Lord ran a good campaign, it didn't translate to votes or even a respectable showing. He's got 2 years or less to start doing something or he may find himself in opposition with 10 seats (sorry to the folks who think a Liberal sweep will happen again. Highly unlikely. Different dynamic than '87 and some ridings genuinely like Lord and/or their local MLA - think Jody Carr, Tanker Malley and Jeannot Volpe)
I wrote earlier about the condos... I wasn't advocating building condos, merely using it as an example of how the controlling bodies in Saint John seem to want it to fail. If the businesses are going to be able to stay open in the evening, there has to be someone there to shop in them. It's great to think we can emulate Halifax, but I don't believe we can. Hell, I would love to be proven wrong. However, for the record, there are a LARGE number of new and extremely expensive condos on the waterfront.
People always talk about getting people to stay in the uptown - but it's not going to happen unless there's a reason to be there or live there. Right now there is neither for most people. I'm by no means either rich or a yuppie... but with the state of housing uptown... no thanks.
As for Rick Mantle saying we have only one shot to get it right, I think the bigger crime than doing it wrong is not making the attempt at all - which seems to be the default position in the city.
To the people who leave the city for either the outskirts or other cities, we can act as smug as we want and see "who needs ya anyway" - but the truth is... we do. People will not be drawn uptown by a store that stays open until 9 - but they're more likely to shop there if they already live there, but everyone bemoans the notion of putting up anything to facilitate that.
It's ridiculous to say that St.John council is any different than Fredericton and Moncton. Industries don't set up in cities based on anything but the provincial government. Moncton was flat broke and dying after the railroad closed and the feds and province poured tons of money into it. They helped build most of Champlain Place, Crystal Palace and the Zoo. The highway was rebuilt so that they would be the 'hub' of distribution. Moncton has continued to enjoy those benefits, as well as the usual juiciness that comes from having the Premier represent you.
As somebody who knows something about the telecomm business and software development, I can tell you that it's virtually ALL done in St. John. Fredericton, of course, NEVER sees new industry, they see new companies created from government largesse which disappear for awhile, then spring up again to feed at the trough.
Apart from property taxes, there is literally nothing a municipality can do to get industry. St. John downtown needs exactly what Moncton got almost two decades ago-which is massive investment. Think they'll get it when they don't even vote in the party in power?
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