SAINT JOHN POLICE FORCE < IRVING GESTAPO > DELETES ALL EVIDENCE!!!
All my pictures have been deleted from my camera. Is there anyway to retreive them???
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Thats' pretty serious-if you are serious. It's illegal for police to delete pictures or take your camera unless you are photographing an undercover police operation. If you are simply taking pictures on the street then you have a very serious allegation against the police force under human rights charges.
If you are serious, there are several international photography and journalistic organizations that have lawyers for this type of blatant abuse. If you were on private property they may have some claim, but certainly not if you were simply in a public place-that's stuff that happens in third world dictatorships, if its happening here, then New Brunswickers should start to really worry.
Depending on how the photos were deleted you may be able to recover them using a card reader and special software. When a camera is used to format or delete photos from a digital card it simply rewrites the file allocation table. It does not delete the actual data!
If you take new pictures it will overwrite the old ones. It is extremely important you DO NOT take new photos on the same memory card until this can be investigated.
Hope you take it to special photo lab with someone who has the extra knowledge because they could unknowingly remove everything. Hope someone else can come to your rescue. Good job and maybe you can explain what took place. Thanks Charles!
Yes Charles is very serious, I'm sure all he wanted to do was to take photo's to inform all of us the readers on this site. The police handled this badly. I saw how they put him face down on the floor to put hand cuffs on him. All the police had to do was ask him to put his hands out to put the cuffs on and he would have done so.One police woman had her knee on the back of his neck. Charles is not a violent person. There was no need of that.
According to the CBC's article on the arrests, it says, "Police arrested three people trying to enter a convention centre Friday afternoon in Saint John to protest an international business conference."
So if that's the case, that's trespassing, so I think the property owner can have trespassers arrested and photos seized.
I would have agreed with the above, except that the conference was held in the convention centre-which is a public building. Just because you rent a public building doesn't mean you own it. A public building is a public building, and if you watched the news you'll notice that Charles wasn't even trying to get inside, he was merely covering the event. I don't know what the 'obstruction' was, I"m assuming it meant he wouldn't hand over his camera.
Nothing is as simple as it seems, read the TJ article. I tended to be against the protestors because trying to storm a public meeting is a bad idea. Months ago they could have started raising money to actually be inside, I would have donated to that, so would have many unions. They would have been invited inside and could have gotten the real story, instead of the one AIMS wants to put out.
However, the media is at fault here because the protestors had to decide between getting media coverage or not, and the main reason for protesting is getting media coverage. So with the media waiting at the convention centre that's trouble waiting to happen. Protest is fine, like todays with 'alternative' conferences, etc., but 'disrupting' a meeting solves nothing.
However, that has nothing to do with what happened to Charles, that's a blatant violation of the freedom of the press. The only reason it happened is because an Irving reporter is in charge of who gets press passes-thats the reality and now the public is paying for it. One thing about charles is you know where he's coming from, you don't have to worry about an editor messing with the pictures.
Even the CBC's coverage during the news was embarassing, the idea that Atlantica is supposed to increase trade is laughable, they've said quite clearly that all they want is a 'super port' in Halifax with low wages and transportation infrastructure with public money in order to get goods straight through the region with a minimal amount of fuss. Notice how the only places in the maritimes even on the 'transport route' is Halifax through southern New Brunswick. Notice how the highway doesn't even go near the main cities-which guarantees the states won't be interested.
I would have agreed with the above, except that the conference was held in the convention centre-which is a public building. Just because you rent a public building doesn't mean you own it. A public building is a public building, and if you watched the news you'll notice that Charles wasn't even trying to get inside, he was merely covering the event. I don't know what the 'obstruction' was, I"m assuming it meant he wouldn't hand over his camera.
Nothing is as simple as it seems, read the TJ article. I tended to be against the protestors because trying to storm a public meeting is a bad idea. Months ago they could have started raising money to actually be inside, I would have donated to that, so would have many unions. They would have been invited inside and could have gotten the real story, instead of the one AIMS wants to put out.
However, the media is at fault here because the protestors had to decide between getting media coverage or not, and the main reason for protesting is getting media coverage. So with the media waiting at the convention centre that's trouble waiting to happen. Protest is fine, like todays with 'alternative' conferences, etc., but 'disrupting' a meeting solves nothing.
However, that has nothing to do with what happened to Charles, that's a blatant violation of the freedom of the press. The only reason it happened is because an Irving reporter is in charge of who gets press passes-thats the reality and now the public is paying for it. One thing about charles is you know where he's coming from, you don't have to worry about an editor messing with the pictures.
Even the CBC's coverage during the news was embarassing, the idea that Atlantica is supposed to increase trade is laughable, they've said quite clearly that all they want is a 'super port' in Halifax with low wages and transportation infrastructure with public money in order to get goods straight through the region with a minimal amount of fuss. Notice how the only places in the maritimes even on the 'transport route' is Halifax through southern New Brunswick. Notice how the highway doesn't even go near the main cities-which guarantees the states won't be interested.
Yes God bless those brave police officers armed with clubs and guns and tasers and tear gas when they had to go up against the awesome power of a bandana wrapped around the face (to keep out gas by the way).
I hear when one of those bandanas goes off, it is a powerful weapon. And of course there is the threat of biological weapons when the bandana is rubbed into the armpit then put over a cops face-stiiiiiiinkyyyyy!
I think the Trade and Conventions centre is a privately managed buidlings with a public mandate. A lawyer could sort out if its public or not - legally that is.
The Saint John Trade and Convention Centre is a private building. Anyone claiming that it is a public building is 100% misinformed.
These protestors had someone on the inside who threw open a locked door to secretly let them in. They then tried to rush the door and push their way in. There is no defending this behavior.
The police did an outstanding job of defending themselves and the building when an angry mob tried to swarm them.
Protestors should be ashamed of themselves for this behavior.
There is a place for peaceful protest but to rush a building and endanger lives? That's just wrong.
"The Saint John Trade and Convention Centre is a private building. Anyone claiming that it is a public building is 100% misinformed."
The building is private property, but it is a public space. There is a difference. Someone could (and people did) walk into the lobby of the convention centre legally, even if they were not conference delegates. This is because it is a public space, like a mall (in fact, it is connected to a mall). It was in this space that Charles was arrested.
The obstruction charge does not seem at all justified, and the deletion of pictures certainly is not. If the police can seize and delete any pictures taken on "private property" then where can pictures be taken without this risk? Only on streets and other public\government property? That's absurd. I hope the pictures can be retrieved, and the police brought to justice for their obstruction of free press.
Private or not people are allowed to be their and that is fact and when don't want you there they turn you away. Let's put it this way if people would stop going it would soon be shut down. Hundreds of people wonder about daily, let the real lawyers deal with it. Charles did nothing wrong!
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Thats' pretty serious-if you are serious. It's illegal for police to delete pictures or take your camera unless you are photographing an undercover police operation. If you are simply taking pictures on the street then you have a very serious allegation against the police force under human rights charges.
If you are serious, there are several international photography and journalistic organizations that have lawyers for this type of blatant abuse. If you were on private property they may have some claim, but certainly not if you were simply in a public place-that's stuff that happens in third world dictatorships, if its happening here, then New Brunswickers should start to really worry.
Charles,
Depending on how the photos were deleted you may be able to recover them using a card reader and special software. When a camera is used to format or delete photos from a digital card it simply rewrites the file allocation table. It does not delete the actual data!
If you take new pictures it will overwrite the old ones. It is extremely important you DO NOT take new photos on the same memory card until this can be investigated.
Hope you take it to special photo lab with someone who has the extra knowledge because they could unknowingly remove everything.
Hope someone else can come to your rescue. Good job and maybe you can explain what took place. Thanks Charles!
Some how you had an instinct that you could be arrested; hope all works out.
Yes Charles is very serious, I'm sure all he wanted to do was to take photo's to inform all of us the readers on this site. The police handled this badly. I saw how they put him face down on the floor to put hand cuffs on him. All the police had to do was ask him to put his hands out to put the cuffs on and he would have done so.One police woman had her knee on the back of his neck. Charles is not a violent person. There was no need of that.
According to the CBC's article on the arrests, it says, "Police arrested three people trying to enter a convention centre Friday afternoon in Saint John to protest an international business conference."
So if that's the case, that's trespassing, so I think the property owner can have trespassers arrested and photos seized.
I would have agreed with the above, except that the conference was held in the convention centre-which is a public building. Just because you rent a public building doesn't mean you own it. A public building is a public building, and if you watched the news you'll notice that Charles wasn't even trying to get inside, he was merely covering the event. I don't know what the 'obstruction' was, I"m assuming it meant he wouldn't hand over his camera.
Nothing is as simple as it seems, read the TJ article. I tended to be against the protestors because trying to storm a public meeting is a bad idea. Months ago they could have started raising money to actually be inside, I would have donated to that, so would have many unions. They would have been invited inside and could have gotten the real story, instead of the one AIMS wants to put out.
However, the media is at fault here because the protestors had to decide between getting media coverage or not, and the main reason for protesting is getting media coverage. So with the media waiting at the convention centre that's trouble waiting to happen. Protest is fine, like todays with 'alternative' conferences, etc., but 'disrupting' a meeting solves nothing.
However, that has nothing to do with what happened to Charles, that's a blatant violation of the freedom of the press. The only reason it happened is because an Irving reporter is in charge of who gets press passes-thats the reality and now the public is paying for it. One thing about charles is you know where he's coming from, you don't have to worry about an editor messing with the pictures.
Even the CBC's coverage during the news was embarassing, the idea that Atlantica is supposed to increase trade is laughable, they've said quite clearly that all they want is a 'super port' in Halifax with low wages and transportation infrastructure with public money in order to get goods straight through the region with a minimal amount of fuss. Notice how the only places in the maritimes even on the 'transport route' is Halifax through southern New Brunswick. Notice how the highway doesn't even go near the main cities-which guarantees the states won't be interested.
I would have agreed with the above, except that the conference was held in the convention centre-which is a public building. Just because you rent a public building doesn't mean you own it. A public building is a public building, and if you watched the news you'll notice that Charles wasn't even trying to get inside, he was merely covering the event. I don't know what the 'obstruction' was, I"m assuming it meant he wouldn't hand over his camera.
Nothing is as simple as it seems, read the TJ article. I tended to be against the protestors because trying to storm a public meeting is a bad idea. Months ago they could have started raising money to actually be inside, I would have donated to that, so would have many unions. They would have been invited inside and could have gotten the real story, instead of the one AIMS wants to put out.
However, the media is at fault here because the protestors had to decide between getting media coverage or not, and the main reason for protesting is getting media coverage. So with the media waiting at the convention centre that's trouble waiting to happen. Protest is fine, like todays with 'alternative' conferences, etc., but 'disrupting' a meeting solves nothing.
However, that has nothing to do with what happened to Charles, that's a blatant violation of the freedom of the press. The only reason it happened is because an Irving reporter is in charge of who gets press passes-thats the reality and now the public is paying for it. One thing about charles is you know where he's coming from, you don't have to worry about an editor messing with the pictures.
Even the CBC's coverage during the news was embarassing, the idea that Atlantica is supposed to increase trade is laughable, they've said quite clearly that all they want is a 'super port' in Halifax with low wages and transportation infrastructure with public money in order to get goods straight through the region with a minimal amount of fuss. Notice how the only places in the maritimes even on the 'transport route' is Halifax through southern New Brunswick. Notice how the highway doesn't even go near the main cities-which guarantees the states won't be interested.
You want to be glad only the pictures were deleted, " if indeed they were as you say ' maybe you didn't have time to take any.
It's amazing the camera didn't accidentally get destroyed just by a fluke of course.
God Bless the Saint John Police Dept Officers for having to go up against Cowards who wore masks or whatever on their faces.
Did you wear a mask on your face Charles ??
Yes God bless those brave police officers armed with clubs and guns and tasers and tear gas when they had to go up against the awesome power of a bandana wrapped around the face (to keep out gas by the way).
I hear when one of those bandanas goes off, it is a powerful weapon. And of course there is the threat of biological weapons when the bandana is rubbed into the armpit then put over a cops face-stiiiiiiinkyyyyy!
I think the Trade and Conventions centre is a privately managed buidlings with a public mandate. A lawyer could sort out if its public or not - legally that is.
"I was just an innocent bystander taking pictures."
Riiiiight, and I'm the President of the United States.
"I would have agreed with the above, except that the conference was held in the convention centre-which is a public building."
Isn't the convention centre owned by Market Square? Therefore it would be private property.
The Saint John Trade and Convention Centre is a private building. Anyone claiming that it is a public building is 100% misinformed.
These protestors had someone on the inside who threw open a locked door to secretly let them in. They then tried to rush the door and push their way in. There is no defending this behavior.
The police did an outstanding job of defending themselves and the building when an angry mob tried to swarm them.
Protestors should be ashamed of themselves for this behavior.
There is a place for peaceful protest but to rush a building and endanger lives? That's just wrong.
"The Saint John Trade and Convention Centre is a private building. Anyone claiming that it is a public building is 100% misinformed."
The building is private property, but it is a public space. There is a difference. Someone could (and people did) walk into the lobby of the convention centre legally, even if they were not conference delegates. This is because it is a public space, like a mall (in fact, it is connected to a mall). It was in this space that Charles was arrested.
The obstruction charge does not seem at all justified, and the deletion of pictures certainly is not. If the police can seize and delete any pictures taken on "private property" then where can pictures be taken without this risk? Only on streets and other public\government property? That's absurd. I hope the pictures can be retrieved, and the police brought to justice for their obstruction of free press.
Private or not people are allowed to be their and that is fact and when don't want you there they turn you away. Let's put it this way if people would stop going it would soon be shut down. Hundreds of people wonder about daily, let the real lawyers deal with it.
Charles did nothing wrong!
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