Friday, July 08, 2005

REMI CORMIER INQUEST IS OVER AND IT'S TIME TO MOVE ON!!!!

Remi Cormier inquest is over and lets pray that the Cormier Family will move on with their lives.

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It’s going to be very difficult for them but for their son Justin sake?

They must move on and they will.

The inquest was very emotional.


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Even for this bystander from the Capital it was very emotinal.

The jury came out with their recommendations and here they are-

The three-man, two-woman jury in the coroner's inquest into the April 6, 2004 death of Remi Cormier ruled yesterday that the case was an accident.

After about three hours of deliberation, they submitted six recommendations:

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1. That a second crossing arm be installed on the left side of school buses so children crossing the road go out around both it and the existing right-hand crossing gate, making them more visible to the driver.

2. That every bus driver receive a description of his or her route, stops, the names of the children he or she is transporting, and that the list be updated and verified each semester.

3. That a bus monitor accompany the driver whenever ever there is a supplemental driver or a new driver, for up to two weeks. The monitor would be responsible for safe boarding and disembarking.

4. That the provincial regulations governing school bus operation be changed so that school bus stops are clearly marked with a sign, and that no pupil be loaded or discharged anywhere except at the sign.

5. That the "Dinobus" safety education program, aimed at kindergarten and elementary school students, be enhanced to be more interactive for children, and that a refresher course be given to the students within two weeks of their Christmas break.

6. That driver training be enhanced to emphasize bus stop issues, awareness of dangers, and human factors like the effects of stress, fatigue, and distraction on a driver.

The recommendations, which are not binding, will be forwarded to provincial Chief Coroner Dianne Kelly, and a response will be published in the Office of the Chief Coroner's

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Now? The question is this? Will the Department of Education follow up on these recommendations? While chatting with the Father a couple of weeks ago? He told me that it could take at least 10 years for the Government to act.

Well? I got news for the Cormier Family.

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I’m in Fredericton and I will make certain that the Minister of Education Madeleine Dube knows and I will remind her every instance that I bumped into her.
After I’m done? She’ll say - My god? He was driving me nuts on the issue of Ritalin and now this????

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You see? This is one advantage of living in the Capital.

I bump into these Ministers on many occasions. A person living in the rural areas will be lucky to meet these elected officials once a year.

I promise to remind these Ministers of these recommendations.

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Even if the Government changes Party? I’ll do the same! I am a man of my word!<
That’s the reason that I am in such much trouble all the time.>

But there was one act that bothered me yesterday.

Remember when I told you that the school bus driver never sent the family a letter of apology?

I couldn’t believe what the Father was telling me.

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Well? Yesterday the bus driver appeared and he never even said to the Family - Listen, I am truly sorry about what happen to your son.

I wonder why? The mother Nadine was sobbing all through the inquest and even when the Bus driver was on the stand!

Don’t the guy have a conscious?

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I’m telling you one thing right now! I have known Mike < father > since he was a kid and he doesn’t mind a good little old fashion fist fight.

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I’m certain that it took a lot for him to remain calm, cool and collective.
The man that killed his son < accident > was on the stand and not even giving a apology to the Family????

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That’s truly disgusting! Well?

It’s over and I heard there could be a civil suit against the Education Department. The only sad part on this one is that once again the Family will have to go through this emotional affair.

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There’s only so much tears a person can give!

Well? They were strong and should be congratulated for a job very well done.
Remi’s death won’t be in vain and it’s time to move on.

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Remi is in God’s hand so therefore everything is ok!!!

The Family will one day once again have little Remi in their arms but it won’t be in this lifetime but the good part about this that it will be for eternity!!!!!

HERE’S A FEW STORY IN THE LOCAL NEWSPAPERS ON THIS AWAFUL SITUATION!!!!
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Times & Transcript | Provincial News
As published on page A3 on July 8, 2005

Boy's school bus death an accident, inquest rules
Bus driver thought he was doing a good deed by stopping on wrong side of road to pick up young student, last day of coroner's inquest told
(FILE PHOTO)
Rémi Cormier was killed on April 6, 2004, when he crossed the road to board his school bus.

RHONDA WHITTAKER
Times & Transcript Staff

Bus driver France Cormier thought he was doing a good deed for a little boy.
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But his decision not to make the student wait a few extra seconds in a light snowfall ultimately led to the death of the boy's brother, five-year-old Rémi Cormier.

France Cormier gave the final testimony yesterday in the provincial coroner's inquest on the fatal accident. The driver and child are not related.

The jury ruled yesterday that Rémi's death was an accident, and while they agreed that school buses are safe, they released six recommendations on improving bus safety.

Rémi Cormier, a kindergarten student at Père Edgar-T.-LeBlanc School in Grand Barachois, was killed on April 6, 2004, when he crossed to the east side of Cap-Bimet Road to board his bus and was struck by the bus' right front and rear wheels.
Recommendations
The three-man, two-woman jury in the coroner's inquest into the April 6, 2004 death of Remi Cormier ruled yesterday that the case was an accident.

After about three hours of deliberation, they submitted six recommendations:

1. That a second crossing arm be installed on the left side of school buses so children crossing the road go out around both it and the existing right-hand crossing gate, making them more visible to the driver.

2. That every bus driver receive a description of his or her route, stops, the names of the children he or she is transporting, and that the list be updated and verified each semester.

3. That a bus monitor accompany the driver whenever ever there is a supplemental driver or a new driver, for up to two weeks. The monitor would be responsible for safe boarding and disembarking.

4. That the provincial regulations governing school bus operation be changed so that school bus stops are clearly marked with a sign, and that no pupil be loaded or discharged anywhere except at the sign.

5. That the "Dinobus" safety education program, aimed at kindergarten and elementary school students, be enhanced to be more interactive for children, and that a refresher course be given to the students within two weeks of their Christmas break.

6. That driver training be enhanced to emphasize bus stop issues, awareness of dangers, and human factors like the effects of stress, fatigue, and distraction on a driver.

The recommendations, which are not binding, will be forwarded to provincial Chief Coroner Dianne Kelly, and a response will be published in the Office of the Chief Coroner's annual report.

He and his older brother, Justin, then nine, had always waited at the foot of their driveway and boarded the bus from the west side of the street, without needing to cross.

France Cormier, a 51-year-old spare driver with a Grade 8 education and a pristine driver's abstract, was only on his second day of the new route when the accident happened.

At the inquest, the coroner's legal counsel, Luc Labonté, asked France Cormier why he stopped on the east side of the road, when he knew that the bus stop was on the west side.

"Because it was melting snow. I thought I was not going to let them get wet. There was no traffic, so I would pick them up there," he replied in French, through a translator.

"I like the children to arrive at school looking tidy."

There are no rules that drivers have to stop on one side of the road or the other, he said.

France Cormier confirmed that the week before the accident, the regular driver showed him the route and the location of the stops. He said he did his pre-trip inspection on the bus before he left that morning, and that the bus' mirrors were properly adjusted to his sightline.

He told the jury that on the morning of April 6, he noticed a "little fellow" in a car in the driveway of his bus stop at 54 Cap-Bimet Road. Justin, meanwhile, waited at the end of the same driveway to board the bus.

On the previous afternoon, France Cormier had dropped off only Justin during his first run on the route, because Rémi went to a babysitter's after school. That's why France Cormier didn't know he had to pick up the tot in the morning along with Justin.

He said after Justin boarded that morning, he checked the bus' mirrors and closed the door, which retracted the bus's right-hand crossing gate at the front.

"I never saw him, I never saw him there, and usually I see what's going on," he said, dabbing at his eyes with a tissue.

"It doesn't explain stuff, but I did not see him."

He also said he didn't hear any warning cries from the children, contrary to what Justin Cormier told police in his statement.

France Cormier told the jury that Rémi's death is still a shock to him. Since the accident, his health has declined.

"There are nightmares," he said wearily, "and things are not the same."

During a break in the hearing, Al Breau, Rémi's step-grandfather, said there was something missing in France Cormier's testimony.

"I think any parent wants to hear 'sorry,'" Breau said.

Following the inquest's adjournment, Ron Arsenault, training co-ordinator with the provincial Department of Education, said the department needs time to decide whether or not it will adopt any of the jury's suggestions.

"I must assure you that we will be taking a serious look at each and every one," he said.

It was clear that Rémi's family is still reeling from last spring's devastation on Cap-Bimet Road.

Earlier yesterday, Rémi's mother, Nadine Cormier, said she didn't want her youngest son to be remembered as the little boy who ran in front of his school bus, but as a loveable little boy and the victim of a preventable tragedy.

"I'm very satisfied with the recommendations of the jury, and I support them," Nadine Cormier said.

"Yet I'm still returning home with a torn heart."


School bus driver explains role in tragedy Last updated Jul 7 2005 04:11 PM ADT
CBC News The man behind the wheel of the school bus that ran over five-year-old Rémi Cormier last year in Cap Bimet says he simply didn't see the little boy.
France Cormier told a coroner's inquest Thursday that he checked his mirrors and started off slowly after Rémi's nine-year-old brother, Justin, got on board.


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He said he had no idea that Rémi was nearby.
Moments later, he felt a "slight little thing," but he didn't know anything was seriously wrong.
Cormier said it wasn't until he'd turned the bus around that he discovered that he'd run over a child.
Rémi had suffered a massive head injury and was killed instantly.
The accident happened April 6, 2004, on a residential street in Cap Bimet, a small village in southeastern New Brunswick.


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Cormier had been working as a school bus driver in the area for two years. He had a clean record and his training was up to date.
• FROM JULY 7, 2005: School official admits bus driver's error
But as the inquest had been told earlier, he hadn't followed the usual procedures on the morning of the accident.
For the first time, he had stopped on a different side of the street in front of the Cormier home.
The driver said the weather was bad that day and he felt there would be less chance of Justin getting wet if he parked on the opposite side of the street.
Normally, he would have driven to the end of the street, turned around, and then stopped the bus directly in front of the house. But as Justin was already waiting by the side of the road, he said he decided to pick him up before making the turn-around.
Again, he said he didn't see Rémi in the area.
Testifying in French, Cormier spoke with a soft voice, wiping away a tear at one point. Asked how he felt about the accident, he responded simply that he felt very bad about it. He added that he was still in shock from the accident and had frequent nightmares about it.
The boy's mother, Nadine Cormier, cried throughout his testimony.
Parts of his story contradicted things she had said about the tragedy, which she witnessed from the window of her home.
Cormier said the driver would have seen Rémi, if he'd only looked ahead before putting the bus in gear.
On Tuesday, the jury was given a tour of a bus identical to the one that hit Rémi. The jury was able to see that the mirrors on the hood gave the driver a complete view of the front and sides of the vehicle.
The driver was the final witness in the inquest.
The jury is now considering recommendations to help prevent another tragedy involving New Brunswick's school buses.




NB Telegraph-Journal | Provincial News
As published on page A3 on July 8, 2005

Dead boy's mother satisfied with inquest
Education Dept. will review jury's recommendations
(Andrew Philips/Telegraph-Journal)
Michel Cormier hugs his wife Nadine Thursday after the conclusion of a four-day coroner's inquest into the death of their son, Remi.

BY ANDREW PHILIPS
Telegraph-Journal

The mother of a five-year-old boy struck and killed by his school bus last year says she's satisfied with a coroner's inquest that ended with six recommendations aimed at improving bus safety.

"I don't want him to be remembered as the little boy who ran in front of a school bus, but as the lovable, little boy he was and sadly the victim of a preventable tragedy," Nadine Cormier said, her soft voice thick with emotion outside Moncton's court building Thursday.

"I'm satisfied with the recommendations and support them, yet I'm still returning home with a torn heart."

Mrs. Cormier said she initially pushed for the inquest, which heard from 23 witnesses over four days, for her two sons, but mainly for Remi, who died a stone's throw from his Cap-Bimet home.

"My family and I appreciate all that has been done this week," she said.

The recommendations of the coroner's jury range from equipping school buses with an extra crossing gate at the front, to providing new and substitute drivers with monitors to help ensure students get embark and depart buses properly, and that no one is still near the vehicle when it accelerates.
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"It's very obvious our five jurors have taken their responsibilities very seriously," deputy chief coroner Gloria Merrithew said as she thanked the jury for its work. "I'm confident your recommendations have been thoroughly discussed."

Ron Arsenault, a transportation supervisor with the provincial Education Department, said the department will review the recommendations, but said it is too early to say much more than that.

"We will look at each and every element of the recommendations," Mr. Arsenault said, noting the department would likely study the recommendations in consultation with provincial school districts. "Our system is very secure right now."

Remi was on his way to kindergarten in nearby Grand-Barachois when the incident occurred. An RCMP investigation ruled out any criminal charges against the driver.

Thursday was the first time the family had seen the driver involved in the incident.
What the jury recommended
Here is a list of recommendations made by a coroner's jury investigating the death of five-year-old Remi Cormier, who was struck and killed by his school bus last year.
• Equip buses with a second crossing arm on driver's side so students don't walk near the front of vehicles.
• Within two weeks of a new school year, provide drivers with bus stops and times, along with the names of students getting on and off at each stop.
• Hire monitors to help substitute and new drivers ensure students get off and on buses properly, while also checking to see if anyone is still near the vehicle before it accelerates.
• Ensure bus stops are clearly marked.
• Enhance the Dinobus school bus safety program by making it more interactive.
• During initial driver training, provide a list of bus stop safety, potential dangers and also place better emphasis on human factors such as fatigue, stress and potential distractions.

France Cormier, who was driving the bus that fateful April morning, declined to comment on the incident and was quickly whisked away by his lawyer after testifying.

But family spokesman Al Breau said he was surprised there was no apology offered even though the family is reportedly involved in a civil suit against the district and province.

"Being a human being, it doesn't matter if there are court proceedings or not," Mr. Breau said.

April 6 marked only the second day Mr. Cormier, who is no relation to Remi, had driven the route. The previous day, both Cormier boys got a ride to school with their father while only Justin made the return trip.

During his testimony, Mr. Cormier said he didn't notice Remi, adding that he checked his mirrors after the boy's older brother Justin, who is now 11, boarded the bus.

"I never saw anything to the side or front," testified Mr. Cormier, 51, who said that while he had a route description, including times and stops, he didn't have a list of student names or how many would get on the bus at each stop.

Mr. Cormier said he only stopped on the opposite side of the road that morning, rather than in front of the Cormiers' house as route information specified, because he wanted to get Justin onto the bus and out of inclement weather.

There were also stark differences between Mr. Cormier's testimony and a statement Justin gave police relating to the events that ended in Remi's death.

While Justin didn't testify in person, he said in his statement other children on the bus asked the driver to stop, but he continued. However, Mr. Cormier, who received his bus-driver training in 2000, said he didn't hear them say anything to that effect.

As well, Mr. Cormier said although he has first-aid training and had previously driven an ambulance, he stayed on the bus following the accident because he wasn't supposed to leave the students alone.

He said the past year has been extremely difficult and he has also noticed his health diminish.

"I went a long while without driving, then I drove for a week, but I haven't driven since," Mr. Cormier said. "It's hard to get through something like this and there are nightmares."

Thursday, July 07, 2005

A LITTLE FUN FROM ARITIST WCIE!!!!

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THE IRVINGS- THE FINAL SOLUTION CONTINUES!!!!

Today is a huge step backwards for the citizens of Saint John.

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The people in that area have lost their newspaper forever!

These days, the Telegraph Journal has a very small section covering the news in Saint John.

This is just the beginning of major changes in which the manner the Irvings are going to handle the newspapers in this Province.

The sad part is that this new section will be full with Irving’s news stories of how good they are for the City of Saint John. That section will change into a newsletter of the Irving’s workplace.

It’s all part of the Irving’s final solution in this Province!!!!

I didn’t read today’s Telegraph Journal yet. I am certain that the green industry story is on the front page.

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This industry is going to replace the shipyard!

I saw on the news last night Mary Keith < robot for the Irvings who never smiles > telling the Irving media that only qualify workers will work at the new workplace.

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What does she meant by qualify?

Rat, back stabber and they must also dedicate their life and soul to the Irving Empire???

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This robot told their own media that this will only happen if they get the approval after an EIA is done?

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My God???? What a bunch of hogwash!!!!

These Irving’s bureaucrats in the Capital must really receiving their bonus pay because the Irvings are getting away with murder.

No wonder the Irving’s public relation is going down really fast!!!!

By the way? Have you ever seen what kind of vehicle a Billionaire drives? This car here is own by J.D. Irving himself. James drives around with this piece of junk!

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Yes, it is indeed a very sad day for the citizens of Saint John.

This City can be proud by announcing to the rest of the Country that they’re the only city in Canada who doesn’t have their own newspaper.

What really bothers me is that the Senate never came out with their final report yet?

Maybe Senator Joe Day < a Irving lawyer > phoned the Irvings and told them that they can do whatever they want with the newspapers in new Brunswick?

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I guess we already know that the Senate will not bother the Irvings!

An Irving lawyer in the Senate chambers looking after the Irvings affair?

Very scary stuff!

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Ken Simms from the Atlantic Press Council told me a couple of years ago that the Irvings can deny a person right to write views against the Irvings in their newspapers.

The Irvings are really pushing hard on this one. They even have Irving’s paid employees to write praising opinions of the Empire.

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I predicted this downsizing months ago and as usual?

I was 100% correct!

This is just the beginning of the end for the newspapers in this province.

Next on the death list are the Daily Gleaner and the Moncton Transcript!

You’ll only see one newspaper in this Province and they will call it - The Irving’s Way!!!

As we speak, the Irvings are training future journalists and columnist at Saint Thomas!

These young soldiers will dedicate their lives and soul to the Evil Irving Empire!!!

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They will only write praising columns of the Irvings!

Yes, it’s a very sad day for all New Brunswickers and there’s not a darn thing we can do about it beside starting a huge revolution!

How long do you believe the Irvings and the Government would have lasted 200 years ago?

Good question? Do you have an answer?

A revolution?

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Nahhh You’ll never see that courageous act here in Canada???

I’m afraid to say it but- IT’S TRULY OVER!!! May God have mercy on us New Brunswickers!

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IT APPEARS MORE AND MORE TO BE HUMAN ERROR!!!

The sad inquest continues in Moncton and it must be very difficult for the parents to go through all this all over again!

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Here's some of the stories that I collected on this every emotional issue!


School official admits bus driver's error
Last updated Jul 7 2005 08:59 AM ADT
CBC News
The transportation director for District 11 admitted Wednesday that a school bus driver stopped on the wrong side of the road the day a five-year-old boy was killed last year in Cap Bimet.

Claude Maillet told an inquest in Moncton that the man knew he was supposed to pick up Rémi and Justin Cormier directly in front of their home, but for a reason yet to be explained he stopped on the other side of the street.


Rémi Cormier

Nine-year-old Justin walked across the road and got safely on board, but his brother, Rémi, was run over just as he was rounding the front of the bus, which had started to move.

Rémi's mother, Nadine Cormier, watched the tragedy unfold from the window of her home.

She said she'd always known the driver had stopped in the wrong place, but said it was a relief to have someone finally admit it.

"He should have gone down Cap Bimet Road and picked up my kids in front of our home as it was done since the beginning of the year," she said. "It's why my child is not with me today."

FROM JULY 6, 2005: Family says driver should have seen child
School officials say there have been improvements in bus safety and driver training since Rémi Cormier was killed, but there was always room for improvement.


Nadine Cormier

The driver, France Cormier, will take the stand on Thursday.

In addition to explaining why he stopped on the wrong side of the street, he'll have to answer for his failure to check his rear-view mirrors before putting the bus in gear.

Earlier in the week, the members of the jury and the Cormier family were given a tour of a school bus, identical to the one that ran over Remi.

Officials demonstrated that the driver would have had a clear view of the small boy, if only he'd checked the mirrors before starting to drive off.

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Other children on the bus yelled at him to stop, but it was too late.

Al Breau, a friend of Rémi's parents, says the driver's testimony will be tough for everyone to endure.

"There'll be some high emotions and hurt and scars opened up again, but that's the purpose of this," he said.

Officials say France Cormier had driven buses for District 11 for about two years on a part-time basis. He had a clean record and his training was up to date.

He has never been charged in connection with the fatal accident on April 6, 2004.

The driver's testimony is expected to wrap up by noon Thursday. Then it will be up to the jurors to come up with safety recommendations.

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Times & Transcript | Courts/Crime
As published on page A3 on July 7, 2005

Bus driver ignored instructions, inquest told
Driver stopped on wrong side of road when Rémi Cormier died

RHONDA WHITTAKER
Times & Transcript Staff

The man driving the school bus that struck and killed a Grand-Barachois kindergarten student last April did not follow school district instructions on where to stop, the jury in a coroner's inquest heard yesterday.

Claude Maillet, transportation co-ordinator for School District 11, testified yesterday that spare driver France Cormier received a list of times and 911 addresses that served as designated bus stops for his new route. That list included two stops on the west side of Cap-Bimet Road.

That's the same side of the road where Rémi Cormier, five, and his brother Justin Cormier, then nine, lived. Each school day, the brothers would wait for the bus at the end of their driveway and board from that spot.

On April 6, 2004 the second day that France Cormier performed his duties on that particular route - he stopped the bus on the east side of Cap-Bimet Road, across the street from Rémi and Justin Cormier's house. (The driver isn't related to the boys.)

Justin traversed the street and boarded first, but as Rémi was crossing in front of the bus, it began to move and ran him over.

"If I decided to stop on the other side of the road, I'm making a conscious decision not to follow my route," Luc Labonte, legal counsel to the coroner, said to Maillet.

"Yes," Maillet answered.

In the audience, Rémi's mother Nadine Cormier wept silently, and his step-grandfather, Al Breau, put his head in his hands.

Later, Nadine Cormier told reporters how troubled she was by the information.

"It's why my child is not with me today," she said, her voice breaking.

Back at the inquiry, Maillet said he called France Cormier in April of last year to assign him the new route. He said the spare driver, who had driven buses for the district for about two years, had a clean driver's abstract, and his mandatory training and annual refresher courses were all up to date.

Maillet said he asked France Cormier if he could accompany the regular driver to learn the route.

"And he did indeed go," Maillet said.

Maillet also told the jury that in April 2002, no bus drivers in the school district were given the quantity or names of students they would be picking up or dropping off.

He said the school district, which represents French-speaking schools from Miramichi to Shemogue, in still in the process of creating a database of information for bus drivers that includes the names of all the children he or she will be transporting.

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The process began two to three years ago, the jury heard. Maillet said it's taken time to launch it, because student information was sometimes entered in the school software in a way that wasn't compatible with the district's bus route software. School secretaries have since been trained on data entry, and the problem's been fixed, he said.

Rémi's kindergarten teacher at Père Edgar-T. LeBlanc school, Anita LeBlanc, gave the jury the "Dinobus" safety presentation that all kindergarten children must see in their first few days of school. LeBlanc said it was clear to her that Rémi understood the lesson.

"Rémi would remind me of the rules in the classroom," she said with a wan smile. "Not just for the school bus, but all the rules."

Nadine Cormier testified on Monday that she and Rémi also went over a Dinobus safety pamphlet together at home. The handout was provided to parents prior to enrolment.

Earlier yesterday, clinical biochemist Dr. Joanne Cadeau said that no drugs were present in Rémi's body on the day of the accident - not even the small quantity of Benadryl that his mother administered to ease his eczema symptoms that morning.

Today is the last scheduled day of the hearing. Both of Rémi Cormier's school bus drivers - his regular driver, as well as spare France Cormier - are expected to take the stand this morning. France Cormier's driver examiner is also slated to testify.


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NB Telegraph-Journal | Provincial News
As published on page A3 on July 7, 2005

Parents await testimony today of bus driver
District 11 official says driver was new to route, but had proper training

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BY ANDREW PHILIPS
Telegraph-Journal

Many questions that have undoubtedly haunted the parents of a five-year-old, Shediac-area boy struck and killed by his school bus last year could be answered today.

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Bus driver France Cormier is scheduled to testify at a coroner's inquest into Remi Cormier's death and will likely be asked to explain why he opted not to stop in front of the young boy's Cap-Bimet home and whether he adequately checked his mirrors.

During testimony at the inquest in Moncton Wednesday, District 11 transportation supervisor Claude Maillet said Mr. Cormier (no relation to Remi) was given a bus route, times and stops along the route, which included the home of Remi and his older brother Justin, when he took over the Grand-Barachois-bound route just days earlier.

"They (the two brothers) would normally take it from their driveway, but in this case, he stopped on the opposite side," said Mr. Maillet, who is responsible for hiring drivers and determining bus-stop locations throughout the eastern New Brunswick school district.

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But besides finding out why Mr. Cormier didn't follow the route, family spokesman Al Breau said the family also hopes to learn whether the bus's radio was on and if it had any effect on the driver's hearing that day.

"The kids were yelling, 'whoa,' and he kept on going," Mr. Breau said. "Was the radio too loud?"

Remi was on his way to kindergarten when the incident occurred. An RCMP investigation ruled out any criminal charges against the driver.

Mr. Maillet said that while Mr. Cormier was relatively new to the route, he had all of the proper training and background checks and had taken a ridealong with the route's previous driver.

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"We try, as much as possible, to make sure the driver is familiar with the route," Mr. Maillet said.

As well, he said the district is now working on a database to give drivers information on individual students and where each one gets on the bus.

"We've been working on the list for about two to three years. This is a slow process," he said, acknowledging there are challenges with implementing the system since students from of divorced parents may split their week between two different homes.

District 11 has 73 school buses with 5,600 students taking the bus to school, employing 73 full-time drivers along with 25 spares and covering 1.8 million kilometres of road over a 10-month period.

Mr. Maillet said the district tries to locate stops a maximum of 400 metres apart, which are often located closer to accommodate younger students. As well, he said stops are placed on the right side of the road wherever possible so students don't have to cross the street to get on the bus.

He added: "We try to advise the bus driver to try to pick up the students without having them cross."

Several witnesses Wednesday also outlined bus safety measures, including specialized training both full- and part-time drivers require every two years, as well as annual refresher courses and a fun school program promoting bus safety that all students must take.

Ron Arsenault, a transportation analyst with the province's Education Department, said potential school-bus drivers must complete a week-long training and first-aid course, acquire the proper licensing, successfully pass a criminal background check and possess a clean driver's licence abstract.

"Their licences expires at two-year intervals so they have to get a licence again every second year," Mr. Arsenault said. "They also need to have a medical exam every two years."

The five-member jury and presiding coroner Gloria Merrithew also viewed a presentation by Remi Cormier's former kindergarten teacher Anita LeBlanc on the Dinobus bus safety program.

"It holds their attention up until the end," said Ms. LeBlanc, noting there could be ways to make the program more interactive in the future by adding a colouring or other craft or game component.
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ELIZABETH WEIR TO JUMP SHIP TO THE LIBERALS???

Once again, I heard a rumuor that Elizabeth Weir will join the Provincial Liberals? What do you think? Would that be a good move for Elizabeth? Feel free to leave your comments!

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TWO MORE DEATHS IN SAINT JOHN BECAUSE OF DILAUDID!!!

Two more deaths in Saint John because of prescription drugs! My questions is this? Once a death occurs in Cape Breton? The news is on the front burner in the media! Why not the same action here? Do you know anyone else who died from these Prescription drugs? PLease let me know. Here's a email that I just received from Saint John!

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Some more sad drug related news from Saint John. Two more men
died from prescription drug overdose last week and another is on the verge of death.

The one on the verge of death has been kicked off of the Methadone
program and is now back on the pills full blown.

I am sure you won't read about these stories in the paper, thats for sure.

I noticed that you could get the amount of ritalin that has been prescribed can you also do the same for Dilaudid and Oxy-Contin?

I would love to see the figures from 1996 till today.

These are the synthetic heroin pills that the Doctors are pushing
and the government are getting rich off of and people are dying everyday because of them.

They were not even allowed to be prescribed before 1996 unless you were dying and now look what they have caused, way too many
people are dying because of the legal heroin pills.

The sad thing is that there are so many of these pills on the streets now that the prices have gone down.

It makes my blood boil when I hear those losers in the Legislators say that if the Doctors prescribe them it must be OK.

Well its NOT OK, TOO MANY PEOPLE HAVE DIED AND ARE STILL DYING TODAY!!!

A lot of families are affected because of the change that the
government made by allowing these pills to be prescribed and in the end there is no help for them.

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If an alcoholic admits that he has a problem then he can get help, he can even fall off of the wagon many times and the help is still there for he or she.

If an addict admits that he needs help he will be placed on a waiting list (which never exceeds 100) and this can mean life or death for some.

The thing that really bothers me is that if an addict falls off of the wagon more then 5 times in the course of his/her treatment then he can never get back on the Methadone program.

Well if you ask me one day on methadone for an addict means that they are not stealing, prostituting, or other illegal means to get their fix so Methadone is a good thing because lets face it alot of these addicts have children and families and they need to see normal.

I do realize that there is no utopia with methadone so a person can OD without realizing it but if they have the right dose they should be fine.

Another thing that bothers me is that these patients who are on
methadone must pee in front of a secretary in one Doctors case.

Yes a secretary not a nurse or the Doctor. Their human rights are being violated everyday because most think that every addict is scum.

Why are they so strict with Methadone but they give out Dilaudid and Oxy-contin's like they were smarties without any guidelines.

They can receive pills by the hundreds, they never have to take a pee test, and they are not look down on by society.

In the cases of a person receiving the Oxy-Contin, Dilaudid
who are not prescribed them properly then it seems to be the persons fault not the Doctors.

The Doctors do not have to be accountable (Protected by
Government we here it all of the time if a doctor prescribes it then it must be OK) for their actions even though they had very little training or no training on Narcotics when they first started prescribing them in 1996 (Findings in the Mailman inquiry in Saint John) and the Doctors caused many many problems for families.

Now when a person goes on Methadone they must adhere to all of
the ules e.g.

Must receive dose 1 hour before the store closes, must sign
contract, must show picture ID, no other drugs in system, no stealing or illegal activities and theres more and they change all of the time.

Now if a person is on the legal heroin pills he/she never has to prove that they are even taking them, can have a months supply at a time, can be on any drugs that they want because there is no pee test required, can pick them up at the Pharmacy at any time, 5 minutes before close if they chose to.

The last thing that I would like to vent on is that some patients
on the Methadone have to go to the Pharmacy everyday to drink their dose in front of the Pharmacist.

Now some of the luckier patients can drink one there and take 4 carries home, others drink one and take 2 home, it depends
on what Doctor that you have it really depends on what power trip that the Doctor is on.

Their reasoning is that they are afraid of diversion, well that to me is the stupidest thing that I have ever heard because we all
know that the Legal Heroin Pills are diverted everyday and nothing is done about it.

So as Isee it the Government has made millions in Tax Dollars on
the Heroin Pills so they don't want them to go away and knowing that if they put heroin on the streets they could sell and collect taxes on Methadone which we in New Brunswick had never ever heard of so now they make it on both and for some they will collect the taxes for years to come.

Who knows what the maker Pruda Pharma gives the Government as a kick
back.

Now thats the kind of new money that this Government is enjoying at the devastation of fellow New Brunswickers. Charlie, you haven't had Citizen of the Week for a while and I nominate all Pharmacist who distributes the Methadone to these needy and thankful people and their families.

Wednesday, July 06, 2005

LIKE FATHER LIKE SON!!!

They do look alike don't they?

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A NEW MESSAGE FROM ARTIST WCIE!!!!

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GOOD REPORTER IS LEAVING THE CAPITAL FOR HALIFAX!!!!

I found this story funny.

Yesterday while sitting on a cozy bench in the Capital. Someone came to me with some information and said - Blog away!!!..lol…

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I feel like these people are the deep throat of the Watergate era.

This infromation was pass to me for the information and the individual quickly left the area.

Hey? Anyway to spread the word among the citizens of New Brunswick..opps… I mean Canada… Sh@t I mean the world!!!

This is not a local Irving newspaper that concentrate in one area to brainwash its citizens of the Irving way!

The is the Information Highway!

Why do I get involved in these issues anyway?

Good question but no clear answer.

It’s a hobby but I wish that I was paid for it!!!...lol….o well? C’est la vie!!!

We the public are not allowed to write critical letters of the Irving Empire and thank God we have the internet.

I learned yesterday that Jacqueline Foster from Global News is leaving the Capital for Halifax.

She’s moving at the end of August.

My first reaction was - My God? First Nicolle Carlin from ATV news left for Halifax and now this?

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All the pretty ones are leaving for the port city in Nova Scotia. ..lol…

Which brings me to a point of concern that I wanted to write about for a long time.

I got a question?

Do you believe it’s right for a reporter to stay in the Capital for a long period of time?

Especially those Irving employees?

I know it’s hard to believe but these loyal Irving employees are human.

Once they get hired, they will really investigate some of the Government wrong doing but after a while they get really close with the bureaucrats and politicians.

Mind you, they get invited for a coffee < even one was invited for a trip to France with the Premier >

Just yesterday, I had a very heavy debate over the internet with a reporter from the Moncton Transcript who demanded that I remove his name from my email list. He works from the New Brunswick Legislature.

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I told the individual that since he’s the media < especially an Irving employee > He’ll stay on my list!

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I don’t wish to be mean but my job is to educate these Irving reporters of what is going on in this Province.

I told the guy- Hey? It’s very simple? Once you see my name? Just delete me!

He really got angry but I don’t care. I will not take orders from Irving’s employees!

Hey? Look at the time I protested in my tent in front of the Legislature?

The Government told the media- Hey? He’s an idiot! Just ignore him and it will go away!

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Well? I didn’t go away and all the citizens in the Capital couldn’t understand the Daily Gleaner didn’t cover a tent in front of the Legislature.

It took 50 days and it’s very sad but it just re-enforce my point of embedded reporters with the Government.

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Take a close look at the blog I wrote about Bernard Richard making a presentation in front of the Senate? The young reporter who was really rude to me. He never said a word but he totally ignored me!

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Shouldn’t these reporters be in the Capital for no more than a 2 year period?

What do you think? Am I off base here?

On another issue, Tom Young will write his own gossip column in the Telegraph Journal I guess.

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Hey? The Irvings will always reward the people who are loyal Irving Employees!

mary

He worked very hard to have Paul Zed elected as MP!

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You can just imagine what kind of column he’s going to write about?

The scary part of this is that we the public are not allowed to write against his views and this is sad!

Lets see that the Senate will say in a few weeks about the Irving’s monopoly in this Province!

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Please feel free to leave a comment.

As for Jacqueline Foster from Global News? I wish her the best of luck in her career as a good reporter!

Bonne Chance Jacqueline!!!

REMI CORMIER INQUEST- SOUNDS MORE LIKE HUMAN ERROR????

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As the days moves forward in the Remi Cormier inquest.

It sounds more and more like Human error.

The bus driver will testify in the morning but there must be something good coming from this inquest than human error.

So far, I believe that the School district is at fault for such little training for a new bus driver on a new route. But what the hell do I know? I will keep you inform!

Here's some story from the media!

Brother recounts fatal bus accident

Click to zoom (Andrew Philips/Telegraph-Journal)
Nadine Cormier, right, seen here with her mother Huguette LeBlanc, said she doesn't understand how a bus driver failed to see her son Remi in his rearview mirror.
BY ANDREW PHILIPS
Telegraph-Journal

In the aftermath of the school bus accident last April 6 that took the life of his five-year-old brother Remi, Justin Cormier said he slumped down in his school bus seat when he realized the vehicle had struck his younger sibling

Tuesday, presiding coroner Gloria Merrithew and a five-member jury heard the words of Justin, now 11, given to Shediac RCMP Const. Etienne Boudreau

"I laid down on the bench because I didn't want to see or hear anything," he said.

The accident happened just outside the Cormiers' Cap-Bimet home. The boys took the bus every morning to nearby Grand-Barachois in southeastern New Brunswick.

"Remi had decided to play while I was outside waiting for the bus," Justin's statement reads, noting that a little later Remi was getting something out of the family car while Justin boarded the bus.

From there, Justin said he assumed Remi would wait for the bus to turn around at the end of the road and catch it on its return trip up the road.

"I was sitting on the front seat," Justin said in the statement. "I got up and saw Remi (running) in the driver's mirror. I said to the bus driver, 'my brother,' and then I said it to him again.

"The driver continued to move forward and the other children cried, 'Stop.' Then I knew it had happened because I felt the bump."

Justin said he then looked in the bus's driver-side mirror and noticed Remi lying on the road. The bus turned around and parked at the roadside before reaching Remi.

"I heard the driver say, 'Oh no, ' " he said.

Const. Boudreau said driver France Cormier appeared to be in shock following the incident. A police investigation laid no charges.

"He was very emotional," Const. Boudreau said. "A second bus was called to take the children to school."

As part of Tuesday's inquest, family members and the coroner's jury were taken to view a school bus parked at Moncton High School. They were shown bus safety features such as convex and regular mirrors that seem to provide a full view of the vehicle's front and sides.

Nadine Cormier fought back tears as she sat behind a school-bus steering wheel. It was part of a demonstration examining whether her young son Remi could have been caught in a blind-spot when he was hit and killed by his bus last year.

"It was very hard to go on the bus," Mrs. Cormier said Tuesday after getting off the vehicle.

Added family spokesman Al Breau: "You could see a dog walking in front and on both sides of the bus (with the mirrors). There's absolutely no reason he was not seen."

Paul Lemay, of Transport Canada's school-bus safety research branch, testified a bus's mirrors are only efficient if they are properly adjusted by the driver to his individual specifications.

But Mr. Lemay said school-bus safety has improved dramatically over the years with buses now considered 60 times safer than regular vehicles. He said researchers are now trying to develop a sensor system, which would alert a driver if someone's standing near the bus.

"We realize we have to do a better job, because one accident is one too many," he said.

The jury also heard from a mechanic, who said the bus involved in the accident was in good working order, and from RCMP accident reconstruction specialist Const. Gilbert Morneault, who was called to the scene to try to determine just how the accident occurred.

"The body was 19 metres from (his) driveway," Const. Morneault said. "There's nothing to suggest to me he was dragged."

The inquest continues in a Moncton courtroom today with officials from School District 11 expected to testify.

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Victim's mother adamant:
Driver should have seen son
Jury inspects school bus as inquest continues into death of five-year-old Grand-Barachois boy

RHONDA WHITTAKER
Times & Transcript Staff

Wearing a pained grimace, Nadine Cormier sat in the driver's seat of the school bus that killed her youngest son.

She continued to frown as the transportation expert at her side showed her how she could see the exterior front of the bus, and both sides, in the reflection of six mirrors attached to the vehicle.

To help her see what the driver would see, an adult volunteer crouched in front of the passenger side wheel to assume the same height as a child.

Cormier's eyes ran back and forth between the six mirrors. Her face crumpled. She buried her head in her hands, shaking with sobs.

Later, she talked about how hard it was to board the bus. She said she didn't intend to get on, but decided it was her last chance to see it.

"It is clear to me I know after doing this exercise - that the bus driver did not look in the mirrors," Nadine Cormier said.

"It was impossible for the driver not to see him."

The six-year-old conventional school bus was on display at the Moncton High School parking lot yesterday as part of a provincial coroner's inquest into the death of five-year-old Rémi Cormier of Grand-Barachois. Jurors, the family, and later, the media, were invited to look it over to help them understand testimony about safety features and operation.

Rémi Cormier, a kindergarten student at Pere Edgar-T. LeBlanc School, died on April 6 of last year after he crossed his street to board his school bus, and it hit him.

On Monday the jury heard that Rémi and his older brother always caught the bus at the end of their driveway on the Cap-Bimet Road, not across the street, and that a new driver was driving the bus the day Rémi died.

Yesterday the second day of an expected four-day hearing - the five-person jury heard detailed analyses of school bus safety from technical experts and mechanics.

Daniel Landry, a technician with Metro International, testified that there were no mechanical malfunctions on the bus that could have contributed to the accident.

Douglas Donegani, who oversees school bus purchases and management for the New Brunswick government, confirmed Landry's findings, and said everything on the bus that hit Rémi met or exceeded safety requirements.

David White is director of motor carrier administration with the Nova Scotia government, and was past chairman of the national School Bus Construction Standards Committee.

White acknowledged that the most dangerous place for passengers to be is not inside the bus, but at the bus stop.

"I can almost guarantee a child's safety while inside the vehicle, but bus stops are an area that constantly create problems," he said.

"There are so many human factors to take into account at a bus stop."

For instance, White said, the bus must pull up directly at the passengers' bus stop, not beyond it. It's dangerous for students to approach their bus at an angle, as Rémi had to on April 6.

He testified that buses are equipped with a series of mirrors that allow drivers to see within three metres (10 feet) in front of the bus's nose, at a 30-degree angle on the left and right, as well as the same distance around the length of the bus's body - areas known as the "danger zone."

White told the jury that adjustments to the mirrors are critical, because drivers' sightlines vary, depending on their height. In order to do major adjustments, the driver must use a wrench.

Through Luc Labonte, legal counsel to presiding coroner Gloria Merrithew, a juror asked if the buses come equipped with wrenches. White said they didn't.

Earlier in the day, RCMP officer Const. Etienne Boudreau recounted information he got from Rémi's older brother, 11-year-old Justin Cormier, who had already boarded the bus when it hit Rémi.

Justin told the officer that the day before the accident, the family slept in, and the boys' father, Michel Cormier, drove them to school. Only Justin took the bus home from school because Rémi finished his day earlier than Justin. That's why Justin knew that the driver was new, and that day - April 5 - was the first on his route.

On the morning of April 6, 2004, instead of turning around at the nearby fish plant and then picking up the boys at the end of the driveway, Justin said, the bus stopped across the street, past their house.

"I could see the bus's brake lights," his statement to police said.

Justin crossed and boarded. Thinking Rémi would wait for the bus to turn around and get him at the foot of the driveway, Justin took his seat in the front, diagonally across from the driver.

He stood up when he saw Rémi in the driver's left-hand mirror running towards the front of the bus.

"My brother! My brother!" he told the driver.

The driver continued to move forward and the other children cried, "Whoa! Stop!"

"Then I knew it happened because I felt the thump," Justin said in his statement.

The bus continued moving toward the fish plant.

"I had seen Rémi on the road through the school bus's mirrors. I asked the driver could I go see Rémi because still no-one was with him," Justin said.

He said the driver told him he was going to turn the bus around. Once it did, Justin could see his mother rushing to Rémi's body on the road. He heard the driver say, "Oh, no," then drove up the road and parked the bus near the scene of the accident.

"I laid down on the bench because I didn't want to see or hear what was happening," Justin told police. He waited there until an aunt came to get him.

RCMP officer Boudreau said he spoke with the bus driver, France Cormier, following the accident.

"He was very emotional about the whole thing," Boudreau said.

"He was in shock."

RCMP ruled out any criminal charges in the incident.

Accident reconstructionist Const. Gilbert Morneault told the jury that it was difficult for him to assess the speed of the bus because it continued moving, and then was parked, after the boy was hit. He said there was no indication that Rémi was dragged under the bus or thrown from the impact.

The inquest continues in Moncton Court of Queen's Bench this morning. Witnesses from the Department of Education, including the district and school level, are expected to appear to discuss student transportation.

Enquête sur le décès du jeune Rémi Cormier : «Le chauffeur d’autobus n’a pas regardé dans ses miroirs»
Sheila Lagacé - 6 juillet 2005

MONCTON - C’est une deuxième journée qui a une fois de plus été forte en émotions pour les parents de Rémi Cormier.

Sheila Lagacé L’Acadie NOUVELLE sheila.lagace@acadienouvelle.com

L’enquête concernant le décès tragique du jeune garçon, happé mortellement par son autobus scolaire en avril 2004, s’est poursuivie, hier. L’efficacité des dispositifs de sécurité dans les autobus scolaires a été au coeur des audiences, cette fois-ci, alors que les témoignages poignants des parents de la jeune victime ont pris l’avant-scène, lundi.

Afin que le jury et la famille de la victime comprennent adéquatement le fonctionnement des dispositifs de sécurité d’un autobus scolaire, ils ont pu assister à une démonstration en fin de matinée. L’autobus utilisé au cours de l’exercice était identique à celui qui avait heurté Rémi Cormier.

Cette activité a rouvert des blessures encore fragiles dans le coeur de la mère du petit Rémi, Nadine Cormier. Assise sur le siège du conducteur, elle a fondu en larmes. Elle a dû sortir du véhicule pendant un moment pour se ressaisir et sécher ses pleurs.

«C’est vraiment dur, a avoué Nadine Cormier. Je planifiais de le faire et, quand je suis arrivée ici, je me suis dit que c’était ma dernière chance de le faire. Mais c’était vraiment difficile» a-t-elle ajouté.

D’après les témoignages des personnes qui ont inspecté l’autobus impliqué dans cet accident, le véhicule ne présentait aucune défectuosité et les freins étaient en bon état.

L’enquête publique présentement en cours cherche à clarifier les faits et les circonstances entourant la mort du jeune garçon de Cap-Bimet.

Lors de cette démonstration, la famille de la victime et le jury qui émettra des recommandations dans cette affaire ont été initiés au système de miroirs de l’autobus. Comme l’a expliqué le représentant du ministère de l’Éducation sur place pour faire la démonstration, Ron Arsenault, le système à six miroirs permet d’avoir une vision continue des points morts entourant le véhicule, autant des deux côtés qu’à l’avant. Il n’y a que la partie arrière que le chauffeur ne peut voir.

«Il est clair pour moi maintenant, après avoir fait cet exercice, que le chauffeur d’autobus n’a pas regardé dans ses miroirs parce que j’ai vu qu’on pouvait y voir n’importe quoi tout autour», a relaté Nadine Cormier. «Vous pouvez voir un chien marcher en face et aux deux côtés de l’autobus, a repris Al Breau, porte-parole de la famille Cormier. Il n’y a aucune raison qu’il (le conducteur) ne l’a pas vu.»

La famille de Rémi Cormier a également pu constater que le bras de sécurité situé à l’avant de l’autobus reste ouvert, même quand la porte est fermée à 98 %. Cet élément leur a permis de comprendre un peu mieux pourquoi le petit Rémi a couru devant l’autobus, le matin du tragique accident qui lui a coûté la vie.

Ce bras de sécurité oblige les élèves qui sortent de l’autobus à traverser à une distance de trois mètres du véhicule, ce qui leur permet de voir le chauffeur et vice versa.

Cette enquête se poursuit aujourd’hui et demain, alors que des représentants du ministère de l’Éducation ainsi que le chauffeur de l’autobus passeront sous interrogatoire. Le jury se retirera par la suite pour émettre ses recommandations qui auront pour but d’éviter que des décès de même nature se produisent à l’avenir.

— Avec des extraits de Canadian Press

MORE PROOF THAT RITALIN IS CAUSING YOUNG NEW BRUNSWICK TOCOMMIT SUICIDE!!!!!

Up to recently Ritalin and other related drugs were considered panacea
for ADHD. Now we are finding out about serious side effects including
hallucination and suicide idealization.

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Same goes for certain vaccinations for babies containing preservative thimerosal for other health problem such as measles and rubella etc. Now we are finding out that it is not without serious risks. Great caution is needed.

We are a profit driven society and sometimes at the cost of human life.
Following was an interesting report on ABC news tonight about ADHD
drugs.

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ABC News
FDA Probing ADHD Drugs for Side Effects

FDA Planning to Strengthen Warnings About Possible Psychiatric Side
Effects From ADHD Drugs

The Associated Press

WASHINGTON Jun 29, 2005 — The government is planning to strengthen
warnings about possible psychiatric side effects from Concerta and related
treatments for attention deficit hyperactivity, and is probing whether
other ADHD drugs need updating, too.

Concerta is a long-acting form of methylphenidate, sold generically and
under the brand name Ritalin. For years, those drugs' labels have
listed possible psychiatric side effects, such as agitation, psychosis or
transient depression.

But a routine Food and Drug Administration review of Concerta's use in
children turned up more reports of psychiatric reactions than
anticipated, including some that aren't explicitly labeled, such as suicidal
thoughts, hallucinations and violent behavior. A subsequent review of all
methylphenidate products found similar reports.

The FDA can't say if the drugs actually causes those side effects the
reports are from a database of reactions reported by medication users
that make such determinations very difficult.
But, in a statement posted on its Web site, the agency said it does
intend to strengthen the labeled warnings for all methylphenidate
products.

Currently, the drugs' labels may downplay the seriousness of
psychiatric side effects, and suggest they're only a risk in people who've
already experienced psychiatric disorders, wrote FDA drug safety evaluator
Kathleen Phelan.

Indeed, stimulant drugs "may exacerbate symptoms and reveal them for
the first time" in children with previously unrecognized psychiatric
illnesses, she wrote.

But, among 36 cases of psychiatric side effects in child Concerta
users, six report histories of psychiatric illness, three deny such
histories and there's no information on the rest, Phelan wrote. Further
investigation is needed to determine if such side effects may also occur in
people without underlying illness, she added.

FDA said it doesn't intend to change the drugs' labels right away. It
is investigating whether similar behaviors are seen with additional ADHD
treatments, such as Adderall and Strattera to avoid people switching
drugs over the concern "based on incomplete safety assessments," said an
FDA document prepared for a meeting of the agency's scientific advisers
on Thursday.

FDA Probing ADHD Drugs for Side Effects

That probe should be finished early next year.

Concerta maker Johnson & Johnson declined immediate comment.

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