Saturday, December 02, 2006

The Irvings returns to the past????


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Charles,

I just got thi in form a friend,,,he says that Marysville Newfoundland is owned by irving,,,irving still gets the contract, Halifax got left out thats all. he will make further bad enemies with Nova Scotia if he keeps this up....

THERE we go Mary's Town NEWFOUNDLAND WHAT a WONDER PLACE DID YOU know that back in the 80's or 90's Mary's Town was sold to Irving for a $1.00 and they sold it to an American Slipway ; Robert Sheppard ; John Sheppard { WHO IS IRVING'S MASTER SHIP BUILDER 76 STill Working } little boy . Went to work for this Non Irving Company{ WINK,WINK } and Has Return to the rock a few times for special projects .

This is true to the BEST of MY

Knowledge
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Thyssen Krupp said if they are successful, they will build the 28,000-tonne vessels in "Marystown, N.L.," which has Mr. Vaslet shaking his head.

TheChronicleHerald.ca

HALIFAX, NOVA SCOTIA | Thursday November 30, 2006

2006-11-30, Business
Still hopeful after losing out
Halifax Shipyards won’t build navy ships but could maintain them

By CHRIS LAMBIE Staff Reporter

Halifax Shipyards lost out on a $2.1-billion program to build the joint support ships. But one Ottawa insider says the Irving-owned yard could still end up with more than $1 billion worth of work maintaining the new vessels.

A consortium headed by General Dynamics Canada had hoped to build the ships in Halifax. But the federal government has narrowed the competition to two teams that propose building the ships in either Newfoundland and Labrador or British Columbia.

and also from Chronicle...

Lost contract will cost jobs union spokesman

By TOM PETERS Business Reporter

The federal government’s decision to drop Irving Shipbuilding from the bid process to build three joint support ships for the navy is "not good," says a union spokesman.

And he also warns it could have long-term ramifications for the Halifax Shipyard.

Jamie Vaslet, business agent for Local 1 of the Canadian Auto Workers union, representing Halifax marine workers, said he is baffled why Irving isn’t one of the two finalists to move to the design phase to build the ships, considering the company’s facilities and expertise.

Public Works Minister Michael Fortier said last Friday that Thyssen Krupp Marine Systems Canada Inc. and SNC-Lavalin ProFac Inc. will be awarded $12.5 million contracts to complete proposals to design the ships as well as provide long-term, in-service support.

Construction and maintenance are worth nearly $3 billion.

Thyssen Krupp said if they are successful, they will build the 28,000-tonne vessels in Marystown, N.L., which has Mr. Vaslet shaking his head.

"If Marystown is successful, the infrastructure they will be able to put in place with federal money will give them a state-of-the-art shipyard, and eight to 10 years down the road it will affect us big time because they will have a state-of-the-art facility," Mr. Vaslet said.

It will then be able to compete against Halifax for ship repair and new construction jobs, he said.

Mr. Vaslet said Wednesday being dropped from the bid process is a surprise for the yard, which has been surviving of late on repair and maintenance work.

Employee numbers have been dwindling and next Monday there will only be 11 maintenance people working and no major jobs on the books until sometime after Christmas, he said.

The union has nearly 800 employees.

"We are like The Red Green Show," he said.

"We are running on Band-Aids and duct tape because we are not getting any big contracts to be able to sink money into infrastructure."

Mr. Vaslet said people believe that because Irving owns the yard, it has millions of dollars to spend on infrastructure, "but you have to get the jobs to pay for it."

Irving spokeswoman Mary Keith said Wednesday the company is obviously disappointed, but "we are still optimistic about several other projects that we know are in the pipeline, some of which we have applied for already."

Irving’s focus is on eight midshore vessels for the Canadian Coast Guard, frigate refits and submarine dockings.

However, the Halifax yard could get some maintenance work on the three new support ships after they are built.

The SNC-Lavalin ProFac Inc.-led group said it would build the ships in Victoria, B.C., but there has been speculation they would work with the Halifax yard to provide a maintenance program.

Irving will meet with federal officials Dec. 11 and 13 to find out what went wrong with their bid.

MP Peter Stoffer, Sackville-Eastern Shore, said the news is disappointing for all concerned, including the province in general.

"Obviously there are other government contracts, which we know there are, and hopefully Irving will be able to pick up and be successful on those," he said.

( tpeters@herald.ca)

5 comments:

Anonymous said...

oh - oh

Irving out of race to build navy ships
Last Updated: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 | 11:27 AM AT
CBC News

A consortium led by Irving is out of the competition to build three Canadian military support ships.

The company, which had planned to build the ships in Halifax, confirmed Tuesday that it had been dropped from the project, but said it didn't know why.

The consortium was one of three syndicates vying for the contract, one of the largest navy shipbuilding contracts in 20 years. The others are ThyssenKrupp Marine Systems Canada Inc. and SNC-Lavalin ProFac Inc.

Defence Minister Gordon O'Connor was in Halifax last June to announce the government would replace vessels built in the 1960s with new 28,000-tonne ships.

The total cost of the contract, including an $800-million maintenance contract, was expected to be $2.1 billion.

Irving representatives expect to meet with federal officials in a few weeks to find out why they were dropped.
The government promised the ships would be built in Canada. The remaining bids would see them built in either Newfoundland and Labrador or B.C.

The first one is expected to be ready by 2012.

Anonymous said...

Could somebody restate what those comments on Newfoundland mean, the bad grammar makes the thing unintelligible. Irving owns a TOWN??

Anonymous said...

Could somebody restate what those comments on Newfoundland mean, the bad grammar makes the thing unintelligible. Irving owns a TOWN??
# posted by Anonymous : 2:02 PM

Charles,

I just got this in from a friend,,,he writes that Marystown, N.L., is owned by Irving,,,therefore if Irving builds the cruise ships there then Irving still gets the contract because he owns the shipyard. Workers at the Halifax shipyard got left out and obviously they must have been half expecting to get the contract.
Irving will make further bad enemies with Nova Scotia if he keeps this up....( I would say this is because of the Brunswick Pipeline bypassing Nova Scotia altogether, this was a contested issue at the NEB hearings last week. Irving wants to have it all and not share.

this is from someone in the know...


THERE we go again Marystown, N.L., WHAT a WONDERFUL PLACE. DID YOU know that back in the 80's or 90's Marystown was sold to Irving for a $1.00 and they sold it to "American Slipway" (still Irving) ; Robert Sheppard ; John Sheppard {WHO IS IRVING'S MASTER SHIP BUILDER 76 Still Working }little boy. Went to work for this Non Irving Company{WINK,WINK not true} and Has Returned to the rock a few times for special projects.

This is true to the BEST of MY

Knowledge

Anonymous said...

Marystown's shipyard is owned by Peter Kiewit

Anonymous said...

The Irvings returns to the past????

Marystown's shipyard is owned by Peter Kiewit
# posted by Anonymous : 6:15 PM

Sorry but the different name means little to us, anyone can "own" anything for that matter and the real ownership can belong to someone else...right ?? (People do it all the time.) The town's real ownership is between P Kiewit and Irving, regardless of "ownership papers' and someones signature. Matter of fact, here is a little of allot that I know about Peter Kiewit ;
Kiewit-Weeks-Sandwell Partnership, a consortium of Peter Kiewit Sons Co of St. John’s, Newfoundland & Labrador; Weeks Marine of Cranford, New Jersey; and Sandwell Engineering of Vancouver, British Columbia, was awarded the EPC contract for the terminal’s offshore facilities, including the receiving pier. and Irving Oil Refinery Expansion - V.K. Mason Construction Co., a Kiewit affiliate, was awarded the largest and most complex portion of the project, construction of the RFCCU. The RFCCU, which has a capacity of 70,000 barrels per day, converts vacuum gas oils and low sulfur residues into fuel gas, propane, propylene, butane, butylenes, gasoline, diesel and decant oil. As part of the unit’s construction, crews installed 43,000 meters of above-ground piping, 29,000 meters of steam tracing, and more than 100 large pieces of mechanical equipment. etc etc etc.

Hmmm, looks like these 2 are business partners, it speaks for itself. Besides, I know more than you think...
Anon