I know of one child who’s on a sugar free diet.
He and another child are given Milk only!
Talk about labeling???
Today’s kids are cruel and many are asking why is young Jimmy drinking Milk only while the rest of the class drink the much better Chocolate Milk????
As a child, I was told that milk was good for you!
They even said that it cleans your teeth!
Many people are saying - Kids being over weight must come to a stop!
Well? Why are we giving them chocolate Milk?
Afterwards the small child gets hyper and the teachers will suggest the dreadful word- RITALIN!!!!
Last year, someone told me that a child who drinks only milk was given Chocolate milk!
The same day this happened?
The teacher sent a letter to the parents that the child was extra hyper and was causing problems!!!!
Now? What happened there?
Chocolate + Sugar = trouble!
I remember last spring someone gave me a small milk in front of the Centennial Building and while I drank my milk?
Guess who droved by?
The Minister of Education Madelaine Dube!
I quickly followed her to her van and said- NOW? THIS IS WHAT THE KIDS SHOULD DRINK!
Unfortunately, she was talking on her cell phone and quickly ran into the Evil Bureaucrat building!
Too bad that it wasn't chcolate milk???? Charles with Chocolate Milk??? RUN!!!!!!!....lol
I heard that it cost more for chocolate milk and it’s not fair for the kids with ADHD drinking milk only in front of other kids!
It’s bad enough once in the adult stage they will be told that they are close to mental retardation because of the orders of the New Brunswick Human Rights Commission that adult with ADHD should be ignored at any cost! < noticed I never used the word racist for a while>
This might change on October 28th!
The minute the child takes the first Ritalin? Their life is definitely ruined especially here in New Brunswick. Read this
This is a fax that was sent to the office of those Racists members of the New Brunswick Human Rights Commission. These were orders from the Irvings of the way that people with ADHD should be treated--
When Mr.LeBlanc was interviewed by Gulf Operators he informed us he had ADHD and was taking Ritalin there were medical limitations placed on Mr.LeBlanc. We accommodated Mr.LeBlanc disability by ensuring that he was given jobs and duties that complied with his medical limitations.
Sherry Merssereau < Irving Human Resources with no Doctor’s paper! > Supported by New Brunswick Human Rights Commission of New Brunswick >
Enough said!!!!
35 comments:
You're partly right Charles. The elementary school milk program offers chocolate milk OR white milk. The choice is up to the parent. I agree with your point. Why give your kid all the unnecessary sugar? However a growing number of parents are trying too hard to be their child's friend instead of their parent so they foolishly ask little Johnny or Suzie if they want white or chocolate milk. What do you think they choose? We could argue the schools shouldn't even give a choice but to blame the schools is simply to give parents a cheap way out for abdicating their responsibility. The ultimate responsibility for children lies with their parents.
If this artical had been written a couple of years past I too would agree the only choice of milk in schools should be white but given the many advancements in low fat milk and sweetner substitutes I tend to believe this alone should not make a noticeable difference in the childs behavior.
As seems to be the case with my own daughter and an autistic nephew there doesn't seem to be a difference and as the nutritional value is equally the same this should not be an issue toward the child.
Although I'm making this assumtion I am open to admitting I'm wrong if proven otherwise to be the case.
We must not blame the parents though. They cannot be with the child all the time. When in school it is teacher's responsibility. Spinks you are wrong again. There is some public responsibility(the school and government) as to what food is being provided at school. Why we pay taxes, that idiots like Bernard Lord can have good time? What a baloney that blame is being put on parents?
Nope, not wrong on this one. deny the facts if you will but these are the facts, check with any school. A form goes home with the parents and they choose whether the child has chocolate or white milk and the parent sends the money. The teacher then doles out what the parent has chosen. The milk company sends only the amount pre-ordered so the child doesn't get to choose on his/her own. How is the parent not responsible when they make the decision? We can say government shouldn't offer the choice, but to say the parent isn't repsonsible. C'mon.
Spinks there are facts and then there are your facts. It is not parents' fault. You once again have shown total insensitivity. A child feels the peer pressure. It is odd that all other drink chocolate milk and one or two odd ones drink regular milk. May be parents are left with now choice.
You know the pressure on parents for Ritalin. Child is misbehaving do something, says teacher. And teacher says that certain Joe or Jane are doing so well because they are on Ritalin. Parents need to keep their child in the school and give in.
Still another fact which you may not have the ability to understand. Chocolate milk producing business has to sell their product. What is the best place to start? School children, so that they will drink it rest of their lives.What is better opportunity to promote their product. Teachers are encouraged to use chocolate milk and again parents find themselves in a difficult situation.
Your problem is Spinks that you rush to judgement without looking at all the facts. I am sure others have told you that you are too damn judgemental and quite frankly ignorant.
Here's a thought-maybe they BOTH have a responsibility. I don't agree with Tim because chocolate milk is make with cocoa solids and suger, NOT alternative sweeteners, which are extremely expensive. So you have sugar AND caffeine, which is a bad combination in a child. Of course it doesn't rank as crazy as having soda machines in high schools. Kids aren't as stupid as we were though, the fastest growing beverages are water and juice drinks. Although some waters are flavoured with stuff as nasty as colas.
Children don't need nearly the amount of milk which they are consuming, and adults don't need it at all. Notice how all the healthful parts of milk are added. Getting calcium from milk is just crazy, but the milk marketing board is one of the most powerful lobby groups in the country. One scientist years ago said we were drinking too much milk and he was blackballed out of the country. My sister wasn't even aware that they had to keep producing cows to get more milk!
The other irony is that if you haven't heard of stevia, it is a HEALTHY sweetener which is even good for your teeth and good for diabetics. However the sugar industry is so powerful that stevia can't be sold as a sweetener but must be marketed as a 'health supplement'. This keeps the price high and keeps it from becoming a healthy industry.
I do agree that there is often the tendency to demonize government and letting parents off, however, socially speaking the government has the power-parents don't. However, some parents may feed their kids quite healthy, and see this as a treat. I don't see why juices couldn't be included as well, but if it is true, as Spinks says, and parents are paying, I don't think the parents escape culpability. However, I don't see this as a symptomatic thing where parents see themselves as 'friends' rather than parents. I've rarely seen that.
6:13 I think you made a very important point that is lobby pressure which is put on the government and teachers. Parents are caught in the middle. Governments can stand up to the big business or give in. In NB giving in seems to be the norm.
The problem is quite simple as I mentioned above. Too many parents make the mistake of trying to be their children's friend instead of their parent. Parents do have "the power" in this particular case 6:13pm and this is too often the argument parents make, "Well, what can I do?" In this case, it's too simple, tick the white milk box off instead of chocolate. Bite the bullet and listen to little Johnny or Suzie throw a fit and and move on. Welcome to parenting. Your kid won't always like you but you do what's best for them even if government is working against you by providing such a choice.
Characterizing any issue that involves human beings as 'simple' doesn't help one's credibility.
If I'm a parent and my kid eats grains, fruits, vegetables, etc., all the time, doesn't get any fast food etc., then what is the problem with giving the child chocolate milk?
If a parent isn't even AWARE of what is in chocolate milk and thinks it might be just fine-after all, research shows that chocolate has anti-oxidants, which are proven cancer fighters-then what's the problem?
We can't even establish that the practise is a bad one that must be abolished, let alone get down to branding all parents as 'wanting to be friends' of their children. That is just a meaningless statement which does nothing to advance the argument. How are they being friends? How are they giving in? Watch the documentary "The Corporation" sometime, there was an ad executive on it who was stating flat out the psychological research has been used for the past fifty years to teach children 'how to nag' more forcefully. That our society lets an industry get away with something like that and have access to public airwaves just because they have money and power doesn't make our society look good.
Obviously that diminishes SOME of the 'blame' that can be put on a parent, though certainly not all (and we still haven't established that anybody should be 'blamed').
However, with all the problems in our society, like with the bilingual arguments, don't take it to personally that people don't make this an election issue.
Personally Mike, I could care less if it's an election issue or even if a parent chooses chocolate milk. My sole point is that blaming government and abdicating any parental responsibility (granted, you yourself did not do that) for a parental choice is just plain silly. That's really one of the main reasons I post here. I don't want government making every choice for me. That's communism. Now whether some here realize they're advocating such a thing or not is another story. Rememember, I'm not interested in shades of grey in most situations especially on black and white issues like this one. I get enough spin from my politicians.
7:14 You make a very important point and that is the need on the part of business to promote their product. Earlier they can reach a child better chances to get a life long customer. Profiteering is the major motive.
Another point which cannot be emphasized enough is the peer pressure. Children have the need to fit in. As a matter of fact we all do. There are numerous studies on peer pressure and need for conformity.
Parents cannot be dictatorial as it could scar the child psychologically and emotionally. If you are too regimental the child will either hurt or revolt. So it will be very simplisitc to say that it is parents' fault.
Government and businesses have a major role to play in school environment. Business need governments and governments need business for political contributions. Only a strong political leader can resist such pressure. Do we have one? Nay!
My main concern in this issue is that any child who cannot drink chocolate milk are label. If you don't believe this is a true fact. Well? You do have your head in the sand.
You are right Charles. Kids are cruel and this comes back to my point of parents needing to do a better job raising their kids and teaching them not to taunt other kids. There are far too many latch-key kids out there for a whole bunch of reasons which have been discussed on other blogs. Too many parents want others to discipline their kids and make the tough choices whether it be governments, schools or even the police. Too interested in being their kid's friends and not their parent.
Spinks where have you been? Have you heard that the whole village raises a child. Now you are blaming everything on parents. Today's parents were yesterday's children and if they were provided rotten environment then problems will perpetuate. That is why the public role comes in and educationists & other experts come in so that we can break the vicious circle. Come out of your shell and face the real world.
Why we pay taxes and pay for the salaries of teachers, experts in the field, and big bucks to elected officials. What is their their role? Just to enjoy their lives on our expense. You are exonerating them all of any responsibility. Very distorted thinking if you can call it thinking.
Wake up and break through the chains of ignorance and right-wind misguided baloney.
Gee 9:50, thanks for proving my point once again that all points of view are welcome here as long as they all agree.
I don't agree with my taxes going to completely "raise" other people's children right down to them choosing what kind of milk they're going to give their kids. We're not just talking the impoverished who make this decision to give kids chocolate milk, so do lots of wealthy, well educated parents. Ultimately the responsibility of parenting comes down to the parents, not the government. If we're going to have government make all parenting decisions as you're suggesting, you may as well sign the kids over at birth. Parents need to take responsibility for their own kids even when the whole world's against you. Your mom and dad can and should be the best influence on you. They should also be able to tell you a word few like to hear but should hear more often, no.
Spinks, all you are doing is creating sh**ty diversions from the real topics. You are worse than Lord government itself. Even Lord will not express such absurd views in public. You are doing it by hiding behind some assumed Spinks name and then you have the audicity to claim that you are using a name.
Spinks, apparently your mom and dad were not very good influence on you because you have great difficulty to be reasonable. Your insensitivity is incredible.
Nope, 6:38 and 6:40 who are obviously the same person. The topic is milk for kindergartners not Spinks bashing. You are off topic, my friend.
Insensitive? Maybe, but sometimes the truth hurts. Too often the truth is sugar coated to make you feel warm and fuzzy. As I've said, I get too much spin from politicians, I prefer facts.
You prefer facts? But you offer none to support your hyperbole.
Thw way I've told you is the way the kindergarten milk program works. Check it out at any school. That's a fact.
What is a fact? It is not clear, Spinks. You like to use the word facts but present none.
Here are the facts again from my comments up the page. This is how the milk program works. I think it's about $17 or $18 for 11 weeks. I stand to be corrected on the dollar amount. If you don't agree with the way the program works or if it's effective we can debate it but I can't change the fact that this is how it works.
A form goes home with the parents and they choose whether the child has chocolate or white milk and the parent sends the money. The teacher then doles out what the parent has chosen. The milk company sends only the amount pre-ordered so the child doesn't get to choose on his/her own.
You have ignored all the previous reasonings. Peer pressure man, peer prressure. Do not blame the parents or children. Only teacher are at the site who can deal with the situation. There is a pressure on teachers to use certain products. That pressure comes from business and government. Lord government is totally slave to business. Totally gutless.
Sorry, the parent still needs to make the decision. If the parent is caving to peer pressure, they're trying too hard to be their child's friend and not their parent. Sometimes the decisions are tough. Welcome to parenting.
You must be the unusual parent like Pat Robertson. Rest of us are faulible human beings. Once again a child is raised by the village in a modern society. Parents is one of the infuences unless you live on a small island alone without any contact with the outside world.
Hardly. I think first and foremost, it takes a family to raise a child, particularly a loving mom and dad. It's proven to work over the ages. I don't see entire villages raising kids like they do in Africa but it did make for a great title for Hilary Clinton's left-wing book.
Keep on living in your time-warp.
No need to get personal, my friend. A polite I disagree because.... will suffice.
It is not personal. Just the truth. If one of these days you wake up in 21st century then let us all know.
It is a global village that we are living in especailly with this internet. You sound like in some isolated island.
Sorry, you do a good dance but it's personal. That's your choice. I prefer thoughtful debate with respect but it's your choice.
You? Thoughtful? That is a new one.
Again with the personal attacks.
Too thin-skinned eh!!
Well that's a step forward, at least you're admitting to personal attacks. I'm a believer in courtesy even to an anonymous person on the Internet.
"Courtesy"? Do you know the meaning of the word. Look in the dictionary and then read your posts.
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