Saturday, September 17, 2005

SHAWN GRAHAM!!!!!

Charles 04_07_05 047

This will truly be his campaign song-


We're not gonna take it
No we ain't gonna take it
We're not gonna take it anymore

We've got the right to choose
And there ain't no way we'll lose it
This is our life, this is our song
We'll fight the powers that be just
don't pick our destiny cause
You don't know us, you don't belong

We're not gonna take it
No we ain't gonna take it
We're not gonna take it anymore

Oh you're so condescending
Your gall is never ending
We don't want nothin’
Not a thing from you
Your life is trite and jaded
Boring and confiscated
If that's your best
Your best won't do

Oh, oh we're right, yeah
We're free, yeah, we'll fight yeah
You'll see, yeah

We're not gonna take it
No we ain't gonna take it
We're not gonna take it anymore
No way

Oh, oh we're right, yeah
We're free, yeah, we'll fight yeah
You'll see, yeah

(repeat chorus)

25 comments:

Spinks said...

Unfortunately members of his own party are singing the same song it about him. Too bad, Graham is a guy like Lord who peaked politically a little young. He has a lot of potential but it's hard to say if his party will let him get there or not.

Anonymous said...

Spinks you are full of it. What potential Lord has? Let us review it:

1-He was sleeping when Orimulsion deal did not get signed and we will pay for few generations to come.
2-He removed tolls and now we are being taxed left and right to grab money including VLts. Do not tell me McKenna started it. If Lord had potential he would have seen the problem and took care of it.
Do not tell victims of VLTs that it is their problem
3-We are in a financial ruins. That is why there is so much money grab. Lord lying about finances during 2003 election that there was surplus when there was a deficit.
4. Because of financial crunch our healthcare is a mess.
5. We have the worse relations with the feds ever. Childcare agreement is still in limbo and so is gas tax rebate. 100s of millions of dollars. We are not that rich a province.

Incompetence is the hallmark of Lord. If you want to continue to kiss his ass then it is your problem but do not impose your nausiating views on rest of us.

Spinks said...

Nope, Lord had and has potential or the federal Tories wouldn't still be courting him. Even if you don't like him, that is obvious. As for your comments, let's take a look.

(1-He was sleeping when Orimulsion deal did not get signed and we will pay for few generations to come.) - I agree. NB Power holds the lion's share of the blame but as the man in charge, he should have known.

(2-He removed tolls and now we are being taxed left and right to grab money including VLts. Do not tell me McKenna started it. If Lord had potential he would have seen the problem and took care of it.
Do not tell victims of VLTs that it is their problem.) We were going to pay for that highway one way or another. The jury's still out on whether we pay more or less. That coems at the end of the 20-25 year deal. On VLT's, look at the VLT post.


(3-We are in a financial ruins. That is why there is so much money grab. Lord lying about finances during 2003 election that there was surplus when there was a deficit.) Actually we have the lowest debt of the four Maritime provinces. Nova Scotia wishes they were in the situation we were. Far from perfect but better than our neighbours.

(4. Because of financial crunch our healthcare is a mess.) More cash is flowing into healthcare than ever before so the finances part isn't true. More cash is obviously not the answer. Services are getting consolidated. Smaller hospitals are closing when they're no longer viable because the cost can't be justified. Lord's doing something. It may not be perfect but if you have a solution I guarantee you have a job tomorrow as a health consultant.

5. (We have the worse relations with the feds ever. Childcare agreement is still in limbo and so is gas tax rebate. 100s of millions of dollars. We are not that rich a province.) Yep, relations aren't great but they rarely are in politics when different parties are in power. Even if the Fed Libs don't like the provincial tories and vice versa that's no reason for Martin to hold back our money (it's not his, it's ours) My bigger concern is that our Liberal MP's which we have far more of than any other party rarely stick up for the province. Liberals Charles Hubbard of Miramichi would be the rare excepetion.

Anonymous said...

Lord has potential and federal tories want him?? It is pure imagination on your part. Not anymore.

Your opinion on healthcare is misguided. It was butchered in rural areas. It is easy for you to say all that stuff when you are living in Fredericton, I believe. It is very insensitive of you. Talk to the people in Carleton and Victoria County and then people up North.

Having less debt is not the only measure of good finances. Essential services are being cut. Are you reading papers & the ER situation in the province. It is a disaster. Did you read about veterans right on this site?

You have not given a single valid argument. Same old same old lousy Lord style justifications for all the goof ups.

Anonymous said...

Hey Spinks, PEI, Nova Scotia & Newfoundland also have Tory governments. How come they have good relations with feds? NFL and NS had their skirmishes which were quickly settled. What is Bernie Lord's problem?

Spinks said...

9:43pm - weak Liberal MP's who should still be standing up for NB. Or look at it this way, if the federal Tories are interested in Lord and make no mistake, talk to senior Tories and they still are, wouldn't the Federal Liberals want to try to reduce their potential enemy with every opportunity they have.

9:14pm - you're right and I've said so here before, healthcare is a mess not just in NB but across the country. The old system wasn't working and the cost was going up 8-10% a year. Kelly Lamrock who is now a LIberal MLA used to work in the healthcare system and HE said that. I'm just impressed Lord has the guts to do something which I think we'll all admit is political suicide. The province has far too many hospitals to sustain either financially or with human resources and they're shutting some down, replacing them in most cases with at least some form of sutainable healthcare. He will lose in every riding that has lost it's hospital, guranteed. He'll probably win in a few others like Doaktown that actually now has the best healthcare it's ever had. But to go out and know you're going to lose ridings over a decision takes guts whether he's right or wrong. It's one of the rare issues I've seen the guy take a stand and show some backbone. We won't know for years if it was the right decision. Like I said, if you have a better idea, I can guarantee you'll have a job in healthcare consulting tomorrow.

Anonymous said...

Lord has guts? That is news! He closes hospitals and spends close to $100 million to build a white elephant in boondoggles in Carleton county that doctors may refuse to practice in. In the end it may cost more than $100 and it may become another bricklin (besides Orimulsion)- a memorial to Dale Graham. Where are you getting your information, Spinks?

That $100 million probably will keep the current hospitals running quite well, thank you. Was cost benefit analysis done? Not a public knowledge.

If Doaktown healthcare is so good why people are so unhappy there over ER services. Do you read papers?

Do not forget the money being lost because of tolls gone. The impact is felt in every aspect of our lives.

All your arguments are totally stale and pages from Elvy Robichaud's and Lord's propaganda book.

Spinks said...

Um...Doaktown never had emergency room services and doesn't now. They didn't have a hospital. Do you mean Minto?

Anonymous said...

Was there a not major demonstration from Doaktown area against Lord Gov't on health issue? I may be wrong.

Spinks said...

I don't recall one. Doaktown never had a hospital and with it's new health centre has the best health care it's ever had. You may be thinking of Minto or Dalhousie?

Anonymous said...

I will take your words on that one. However, I have not heard a single community happy with Lord healthcare reform. It was poorly designed and implemented without consultations with the stakeholders. There are some big ego bureaucrats in department of Health and Wellness who are screwing Lord government.

Spinks said...

As I said, we'll see but you're right no community which lost it's exisiting hospital no matter how poorly it was staffed is happy. Those communities will turf the Tories rightly or wrongly.

Anonymous said...

They will turf the government out rightly. It was ill-concieved health plan with no consultations. Even the medical community was ignored.

Spinks said...

Maybe...and if the election were today, probably. But don't forget even if that's true without a doubt 150,000 or so NBers will still vote for Lord. I guess that's where I'm coming from. The attitude on this site is that Lord will get 10 votes or something ridiculous in all of NB and because of that he should go today. He does have a majority. Agree or disagree, the people put him in there. It's the same as the Federal Liberals. I think everyone who reads my posts know that I think they should go and I'd love to see them go NOW but the people have spoken and unless they lose a non-confidance vote, they deserve to stay there because voters out them there. I really don't like arguing with you folks. I simply see "Lord is bad" comments over a decision he made on everything. On some things you folks are right, he made a bad decision and I've said so. On other things there may be a bigger picture to it and I'm merely bringing another point of view to the table that that MAY be the case. Like I said above, you don't have to like Lord but it's obvious he has something or Federal Tories wouldn't be courting him and I don't think a stupid person can graduate from University. Like I've said, my biggest beef with him is his indeciseveness and the fact that he's surrounded by weak MLA's with the rare exception of a good MLA.

Anonymous said...

A stupid person can graduate from univesity. University degree is no gaurantee that the person will make a great leader.

Does he has a majority? That lady in Saint John Brenda Fowlie won by only 15 votes and she is the one who gave Lord government majority. Of course he lied about everything to win in 2003. That will not work again. It is more than being 'bad'. He has proven to be a very immoral person on lot of issues. A leader needs moral authority to remain a leader. Lord does not have that.

Spinks said...

To answer your questions, yes, he has a majority, even if it's slim and yes if someone is truly stupid, it would be impossibile to graduate from university.

Anonymous said...

Well!
Bernie Lord is a good example. He did graduate from a university. And will he get anymore stupid?

15 votes majority. This house of cards will crumble anytime now.

Spinks said...

If one MLA bails, you're right, otherwise a majority of one vote is still a majority. Welcome to democracy.

Anonymous said...

If that makes you happy and secure be it. However, your friend Bernie is not that happy. He knows he is cooked. Done. Fini.

Spinks said...

Maybe and like I've said, I'm hardly a staunch supporter or I would have voted for him last election. He has to win my vote, just like any other party. The jury's still out for this voter just like all the other undecided voters.

Spinks said...

It's not meant as a defense, simply another view. Check above five points. I agree with (you?) on two points but not on three. I'm not sure where the defense is. We simply don't agree 100%. I don't think Lord is "out to get the people of NB". If it's proven he is, he's toast and the dumbest politician ever. I don't believe that and I suspect if you think about it, you don't either even if you don't like him.

My point is that if you'll only treat people with respect who agree with you ALL the time, you'll have an unhappy life.

Anonymous said...

You must read others' posts. No one said Lord is out to get NB. He is plain incompetent and self-absorbed. I believe those who have fixed conservative views in a changed and changing society are the unhappiest people. And you are a person who has very fixed views.

Spinks said...

Again, by that logic everyone here has very fixed views because they don't think Lord has done ANY good. I can't think of a politician who hasn't done any good. It's a blanket statement and it's just not true. When somebody is blatantly right or makes a good point I agree. When they don't I offer an opinion. You can read it and discuss it or not. Your choice.

Anonymous said...

And then you say you do not defend Bernard Lord?

Anonymous said...

Lucky Bernard Lord. If he was native, black or chinese then it would have been different story.